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zhegao

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PostedJun 30, 2010 11:20 am

Socket Calculations

Anyone know the numbers to the socket calculations?

I put on a hr 1% gem to one of my wpns and my hr increased by 4.
I believe this 1% is scaled to your hr without any accs or wpns (basically naked stat). For healer my naked hr is 402.

Now I have heard that you can get 18 sockets max on a healer, (20 for ns and tk). Assuming you can get all 18, and you get the 5% gems, you get can get a max of 360 hr for healer.

But since 5% gems are rare and max sockets are rare as well, you're prolly looking at a increase of hr between 100-200.

I guess bottom line of the story is that sockets add a small bonus, but you should not kill yourself if you get 1 socket on a weapon, because these bonuses will not make or break characters.

I believe the attack gems work the same way. You will get the same increase for a +15 wpn and a +25 wpn because it is scaled to your base stats without any gear.
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PostedJun 30, 2010 11:47 am

Re: Socket Calculations

zhegao wrote:
Anyone know the numbers to the socket calculations?

I put on a hr 1% gem to one of my wpns and my hr increased by 4.
I believe this 1% is scaled to your hr without any accs or wpns (basically naked stat). For healer my naked hr is 402.

Now I have heard that you can get 18 sockets max on a healer, (20 for ns and tk). Assuming you can get all 18, and you get the 5% gems, you get can get a max of 360 hr for healer.

But since 5% gems are rare and max sockets are rare as well, you're prolly looking at a increase of hr between 100-200.

I guess bottom line of the story is that sockets add a small bonus, but you should not kill yourself if you get 1 socket on a weapon, because these bonuses will not make or break characters.

I believe the attack gems work the same way. You will get the same increase for a +15 wpn and a +25 wpn because it is scaled to your base stats without any gear.  

I've heard that you can't have more than one of the same gem on the same item. So guess it's less than that is it's true.

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PostedJun 30, 2010 11:52 am
Oh really? That is very interesting. I have not tried to put another one of those white pearls on, mainly because it was a pain to find just 1 xD

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PostedJun 30, 2010 12:27 pm
I just got one of the black pearls, looks like it does increase weapon attack by 1%. However, I do not know if it scales to the BASE attack of the weapon or the TOTAL attack of the weapon (base and the upgrade bonuses). I did not take note of my attack beforehand so I am not sure on this.

As for the gem stacking, my guildy said he can stack 2 gems on the same piece of equipment but I am still working on confirming that.

EDIT: just confirmed that the gems only scale to the BASE attack of the weapon.

Example: so let's say your bow is 600+1300(made up these numbers, easy to work with). Now let's say you put a 1% black pearl (increase attack of weapon by 1%) to the weapon, your bonus would be 600*0.01=6 attack.

So still, the bottom line is, these sockets are small bonuses, and will not transform you into a god by any means. Wink

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PostedJun 30, 2010 12:41 pm

Re: Socket Calculations

zhegao wrote:
Anyone know the numbers to the socket calculations?

I put on a hr 1% gem to one of my wpns and my hr increased by 4.
I believe this 1% is scaled to your hr without any accs or wpns (basically naked stat). For healer my naked hr is 402.

Now I have heard that you can get 18 sockets max on a healer, (20 for ns and tk). Assuming you can get all 18, and you get the 5% gems, you get can get a max of 360 hr for healer.

But since 5% gems are rare and max sockets are rare as well, you're prolly looking at a increase of hr between 100-200.

I guess bottom line of the story is that sockets add a small bonus, but you should not kill yourself if you get 1 socket on a weapon, because these bonuses will not make or break characters.

I believe the attack gems work the same way. You will get the same increase for a +15 wpn and a +25 wpn because it is scaled to your base stats without any gear.  


100-200 hit rate is a sizable bonus i believe. coming from an RK though.
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PostedJun 30, 2010 12:45 pm

Re: Socket Calculations

Ld6141 wrote:
zhegao wrote:
Anyone know the numbers to the socket calculations?

I put on a hr 1% gem to one of my wpns and my hr increased by 4.
I believe this 1% is scaled to your hr without any accs or wpns (basically naked stat). For healer my naked hr is 402.

Now I have heard that you can get 18 sockets max on a healer, (20 for ns and tk). Assuming you can get all 18, and you get the 5% gems, you get can get a max of 360 hr for healer.

But since 5% gems are rare and max sockets are rare as well, you're prolly looking at a increase of hr between 100-200.

I guess bottom line of the story is that sockets add a small bonus, but you should not kill yourself if you get 1 socket on a weapon, because these bonuses will not make or break characters.

I believe the attack gems work the same way. You will get the same increase for a +15 wpn and a +25 wpn because it is scaled to your base stats without any gear.  


100-200 hit rate is a sizable bonus i believe. coming from an RK though.  


Well that was data for a healer. what's your naked hr stat? Keep in mind that hit rate is important in pvp, but also notice that everyone will pretty much have these bonuses.
Another food for thought, people are having trouble upgrading to lvl 2 gems from lvl 1, so at the time being that 100-200 bonus is a very high estimate.

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PostedJun 30, 2010 12:48 pm

Re: Socket Calculations

zhegao wrote:
Ld6141 wrote:
zhegao wrote:
Anyone know the numbers to the socket calculations?

I put on a hr 1% gem to one of my wpns and my hr increased by 4.
I believe this 1% is scaled to your hr without any accs or wpns (basically naked stat). For healer my naked hr is 402.

Now I have heard that you can get 18 sockets max on a healer, (20 for ns and tk). Assuming you can get all 18, and you get the 5% gems, you get can get a max of 360 hr for healer.

But since 5% gems are rare and max sockets are rare as well, you're prolly looking at a increase of hr between 100-200.

I guess bottom line of the story is that sockets add a small bonus, but you should not kill yourself if you get 1 socket on a weapon, because these bonuses will not make or break characters.

I believe the attack gems work the same way. You will get the same increase for a +15 wpn and a +25 wpn because it is scaled to your base stats without any gear.  


100-200 hit rate is a sizable bonus i believe. coming from an RK though.  


Well that was data for a healer. what's your naked hr stat? Keep in mind that hit rate is important in pvp, but also notice that everyone will pretty much have these bonuses.
Another food for thought, people are having trouble upgrading to lvl 2 gems from lvl 1, so at the time being that 100-200 bonus is a very high estimate.  


well even for a bonus of 100 i would still do it. that would bump me up past 1.1k!

my base HR is 256.
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PostedJun 30, 2010 12:51 pm
If your base hr is 256, then you're looking at a slightly small bonus.

Assuming you get all 18 sockets (very tough to do) and all 5% hr gems (equally as hard to do), you will get a maximum bonus of 256 x [(5 x 18) / 100] = 230.4 hr.

So a bonus of 100 is a very good if you can achieve it. I do agree with you, though, it's a nice bonus to have.

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PostedJun 30, 2010 1:00 pm
If you combine two level 2 gems , can you end up with a level one?
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PostedJun 30, 2010 1:02 pm
DragonRaider14 wrote:
If you combine two level 2 gems , can you end up with a level one?  


Sry I have not combined anything yet. Still working on the numbers, hence the title socket calculations Razz

EDIT: edit i just confirmed you cannot put the same type of gem on the same equipment twice.

EDIT2: This means that 35% hr increase is possible for NS and tk. 30% hr increase for other classes. My healer would have a 100 hr increase maximum.
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