It's the idea of getting the developers to do the coding that is the drawback. I was wondering if the existing code for a Merac "Castle Siege" could be used to have a kind of siege with two ends - so that each team has to defend its own throne/base, and attack the other team's, wearing it down...?

Ur a genius
Perfect idea.... Will need alot of motivation from the gm's though...i can only imagine how complicated the code will be xD

Faenwyn wrote:

it will take years to get the developers to rewrite all that stuff so I vote no But it is a good idea

Faenwyn, as i explained before, everything is already in the game ! they will just have to do some rearangements. u dont believe it? ok, then let me explain:
-first, the room where it would be: the PERSONAL DUNGEON 1, just the top level of it. u remember that when u start the game, u start it in a dungeon. if u start a new character, and u kill all the mobs and go through the second door, u will receive the message,,welcome to the world of last chaos....blah blah blah", and under that u have the confirm button, and if u press confirm, u get teleported for the first time to juno. DONT PRESS THE CONFIRM BUTTON and just go on through the second coridor, and at the end of it u will see another room exactly like the room u started from, and the corridor to it is a mirrored image of the first corridor where u fight the mobs. so THE LOCATION ALREADY EXISTS.
-second, the Party versus party sistem: this sistem also exists, just in a bit different form and that is as GUILD VERSUS GUILD. wont be that difficult to implement the guild versus guild sistem into a party versus party sistem. the only thing on this subject that has to be done, is the actual TRIGGER of the party versus party sistem, a sistem that will have to activate the pvp mode betwen the partyes when u enter the room.
-third, the mobs or bosses.....any point in talking about that??
-fourth,the flag. ok, i admit that this one will require a bit of extra work and some extra cups of coffe from the developers, because it will have to be a removable item from one character to the other. im not talking about making the flag itself, because THE FLAG already EXISTS in the form of a weapon cover for a sorceror scythe. the problem is how to make a character pick up something that will be shown on his back, and that when he dies, will drop and remain standing in the same spot as the character. my solution for this problem is the following: because u dont have a pet equiped when u enter the CTF room, u have the pet slot empty. that is the place where the flag will go, and the flag itself could be a pet that gives no stats, but only flyes very close to your back, so close that it actually seems atached to u. U could put it simply this way: a pet in a sorceror weapon cover the sistem for the pet to be automatticaly unequiped when u die already exists in the game, they will only have to make it unequip and drop from your inventory slot. making something that is on the ground look like a flag dont think is that hard LMAO. when the enemy approaches and clicks on the flag that is on the ground, it will automatticaly equiped the pet in his pet slot, and so on. Solutions are, u just need to want to do something.
-fifth, the kill counter. this one is already implemented in the PERSONAL DUNGEON 4. no point in discussing that either
-sixth,stopping the glow of your weapons or armors.....that is a simple setting in your option menu, that the game developers could set to be triggered when u enter the room.
-seventh,an NPC that can teleport u to the CTF game room. well, is bassicaly same task that the Domain merchant does when it teleports u to the Sunday Quizz room.
-eight,organising the players into partyes. well that is easy to be solved i think. u just need to pair up the close level characters that register for the game, into pairs of at least 6 players(up to a maximum of 16), and then RANDOMLY split those 6 players into 2 teams, with different starting points.

Later the game could be perfected and have different stuff added to it, things like a game score board, where players can see how many kills they have up until that point, and eventually, create a new game RANKING SISTEM, different than the level one or the reputation one. It could be a ranking of the players KP(kill points). u can make the KP like i told u before, by killing an enemy, or by winning the CTF game. at the end u could choose to spend certain amounts of KP on different rewards. once u get your reward, those KP that u used will dissapear. but if u dont use those points for rewards u could just gather them and try to get into the KP Ranking sistem, where u could see who has the ,,Killer Of The Month" title, or who is the ,,Supreme Killer". this are just ideas that could be easily implemented into the game. they wont have to do everything at once, but they should start with a basic CTF game like the one i described. and i am sure that if u knew that someone will actually try to make this real, u would have voted AGREE.

best regards Sintetiq

MistressDomina wrote:

It's the idea of getting the developers to do the coding that is the drawback. I was wondering if the existing code for a Merac "Castle Siege" could be used to have a kind of siege with two ends - so that each team has to defend its own throne/base, and attack the other team's, wearing it down...?

MistressDomina, read the answer i gave to Faenwir, i think it will clear up alot and guys, if i dont get some support, i can not forward this to the game masters as an RT. i have to gather certain amounts of positive votes to actually have a chance at getting it accepted. i dont say is something that could be done over night, but is a thing that could be implemented in a few months if we manage to get some attention on this subject. I have said this before and i repeat myself, convince players from your servers to actually have a look at this topic, and to give a vote. i need al the help i can get to put this idea on the move. believe me guys, IT CAN BE DONE WITHIN 2 MONTHS if is the actual will of doing it. i wont mind even if this will be implemented in double that time or even a bit more. but im telling u one thing: the amount of new players that this will generate is gonna be like a wave onto Aeria. because is the actual pure pleasure of PVP-ing FOR REWARDS, and to be that someone from the top of the Rankings, even at a lower level. i have tons of other ideas, and solutions, so if u feel like asking something feel free to ask. or if u have complains about it, feel free to post ^^

best regards Sintetiq

You have obviously put an impressive amount of thought into this - having the flag as a pet in a sorc weapon cover is an excellent idea, as you say a pet gets unequipped when the player dies, which is half the solution, it just needs to be made to drop on the ground.

One of the drawbacks with Last Chaos is that its PvP systems are pretty crude and basic, so if this is made to work, it would be a great step forward. I'm not too sure about random teams, one sometimes might want to form a team of friends, but there could easily be a choice of random or not-random, at the start.

I too agree this is a great idea, but a few questions....

The one carrying the flag, will they be 'lit up' or? what? how will the opposing team know WHO has the flag?

Will there be more than two teams running at once?[in different 'rooms'] or a succession of teams throughout a period of time?

How are the teams picked? They need to be equally balanced high lvl vs low lvl.. or you would wind up with a ton of high lvl players killing off all the low lvls

A great idea...I think my guild would participate as we are discussing it in our voice server as I type this

TwoHawks wrote:

I too agree this is a great idea, but a few questions.... The one carrying the flag, will they be 'lit up' or? what? how will the opposing team know WHO has the flag? Will there be more than two teams running at once?[in different 'rooms'] or a succession of teams throughout a period of time? How are the teams picked? They need to be equally balanced high lvl vs low lvl.. or you would wind up with a ton of high lvl players killing off all the low lvls A great idea...I think my guild would participate as we are discussing it in our voice server as I type this

your questions were answered before, in the other messages that i answered at. in this same page. but i dont mind answering again:
-the one carying the flag will have the flag on his back, so u can see it. it will be a flag like the one used as weapon cover for the sorceror scythe
-the teams will be aranged according to levels, so the closest levels will fight either in the same team or they will opose another team of the same level. still, you can not choose your oponents or the enemyes, because the computer will decide it for u, being a RANDOM decision.
-i was thinking about how the event will take place and i came up with a solution:
a) the event will be done every 3 hours, and it will be splited into 4 groups of levels, starting from level 20
b)each level group will be participating at the event in certain times, not all levels at once, so we avoid the lagg.
c)each group will have lets say 100 participants, and this 100 participants will be split into equal numbers in as less teams as possible, each team having maximum 8 players, and then the teams will be grouped ones against the others according to the levels in each team. tha means closest as possible to each other.
d)they will be in separate rooms, not mixed together, kinda like the same room, but in different servers, if u understand what i mean. all participants will batle at same time, but they will only see theyr other 7 members and 8 enemyes. read pls the posts at page 3, because i cant tipe more now. i explained there more. and ill explain some more later, now i have to run to work

best regards, Sintetiq ^^

i like the idea i can see guilds doing guild events with that and i would be fun

You really have put alot of thought into not only the idea, but the viability of it as well. The fact that you openly admit it WILL take time to implement is also a plus since most want to think things just *poof* get done. The coding for it will take a bit of time, yes, but with so much being already game related it truly would make it a lot easier on the devs.

All in all I AGREE.

beast woman wrote:

i like the idea i can see guilds doing guild events with that and i would be fun

yes, i also tought about organising some other tipes of events inside the CTF room, but is mainly for CTF game. later on an option that allows u to make your own selection of players that u go up against(or those that will be in your team) could be added, so that a guild master could organise events for his own guilds inside that room. i think it would be fun to have a ,,last one standing" tipe of game inside that room with my guild mates(except Totyi ) hes 94 or more ). so ya, like i said in the previous answers, starting with the base idea of the game, u could evolve this into some unexpected ways, that could only bring more fun into sometimes(most of the times) boring world of last chaos, especially for the lower levels. us, the 90 and below players dont have a chance at MCS or DCS cuz of all the high lvl players, so it will be fun to organize our own events. u could challenge other guilds at a CTF game later on, or u could also do a last one standing game with them. but at the end is all up to you guys, i did my part of proposing it, and showing u how it can be done, now u have to make it happen by voting for or against the idea. GIVE SOME SUPPORT PEOPLE AND DONT JUST BROWSE OVER IT!! TAKES U 3 SECONDS TO CLICK THE REPLY BUTTON AND TIPE SOMETHING IN THE NEW OPENED WINDOWS : AGREE OR DISAGREE. there, was that hard? )