Corletha's Guide to Party Etiquette with Healer/Cleric in Your party:


Foreword:Want a cleric to eagerly join you on your adventures? Want them to want to party with you? Then understand their Character class and be considerate.... Trust me, there is no better friend in a party attacking mobs than the Cleric you've got in the party with you!

• Always Protect your Healer/Cleric! They're your ticket to health, so if they die, your' out of luck.
  
• Be fair to your Healer/Cleric and make it an Equal party. If all they do it heal, they really have not reason to be in a Combat party, and you'll end up on your own.
  
• A Precedence party is not always fair to a Healer/Cleric. Most people in Precedence party demand to keep the loot from monsters they kill, which means that your healer gets nothing or nearly nothing if they are concentrating on keeping your healthy.
  
• Keep your eyes on your monster. Monsters love healers and Clerics, often abandoning the person attacking them to aggro onto the healer.
  
• Keep an Eye on Mana: Both the party members and the Healer or Cleric need to keep an eye on the healer's mana. If their MP runs out and they don't have any mana pots, everyone suffers. In a battle it's easy to lose track of your own mana, so help a healer out. ^^
  
• Retreat!:If the situation gets too rough, even with a healer or several constantly healing, let everyone know before you run. This goes for every class, including the healer(s) in the party.
  
• If you form a big party or tend to power lvl, don't expect that only one healer/cleric will be able to do all the job. Maybe try to be with 2 healers/clerics, or maybe an additional archer that is willing to help. Also please use your health pots to help out, in the end your Cleric or healer is a helper and it is YOUR responsibility to keep an eye on your health.
  
• Stay within your healers radar (mini map) so that you can get healed and more easily found to resurrect you. When you wonder away heals won't reach you and you may be difficult to locate as well.
  
• Remember the risks you take going into a dangerous situations, can also put the healers at risk, especially if your surrounded by aggro monsters and you die. The healer needs to seek you out and practically stand over your body to resurrect you, if the healer dies, you are both out of luck.
  
• Watch your Buffs: For all Classes, not just Clerics, take your time to rebuff if needed before attacking another mob. These buffs help the Cleric to keep you alive, give everyone a chance to buff all party members and please ask, "ready?" to make sure all buffs are finished before attacking. When buffs are finished by all just a simple response "rdy" is a great way for all partied members to know that all are prepared for the next round.
  
• Don't expect Healer to Horse Buff etc: Your Clerics mana is easily reduced with 1 Greater Heal and 1 Fast Heal use, this is more then one mana pot can handle (especially since only small mana pots can now be bought in game.) Please don't expect the Cleric to Horse Buff as much needed mana maybe lost doing this and in exchange lives could be lost. So basically if you are an Archer, please help out by buffing with the Mana Shields when needed. And all classes should help with horse buffs (as well as other buffs) and should be sure to buff the party as well. The Clerics mana is precious and the use of these extra buffs can make a difference between life and death of the party members. Buffing is Everyones Responsibility
  
• If you are an Archer: Don't worry, Sisters of the Cleric, we don't expect you to do all the heals, actually it wastes our (the Clerics and your) mana when we Clerics power heal (Greater Heals = 2 times the regular heal and Fast Heal = 2 times faster heal) and your supplemental heals aren't needed at that time. Your supplemental heals are a great asset to any party, but so are your wonderful attack talents! Smile But I have one plea, do not use the party heals with agro creatures (ie: demons in Egeha). If you Archers are too tempted to use party heals, do your party a favor and take party heal off your hotkeys, there have been many deaths by party heal that I have both experienced and witnessed. thank you. Smile
  

***I wish to thank all the healers and our friends in the LC "High Elf Healer" forum for all their help, patience and support with my writing of this Guide... you have assisted me in seeing this "my baby" come to fruition and it's now it's time for me to cut the apron strings and send my little baby forth into the big world of LC. Thank you so much my friends!

Firstly i would like to thank you for pointing this out to people. As alot of parties expect us clerics to be able to handle everything, They put us at risk when say luring a demon from behind a dragon because we do not want them to die as it makes us feel bad when they do since we are cleric we choose to keep them alive. Some people just get mad at us clerics when they die when it really was difficult to keep them alive in particular situations that i have mentioned above. ._.

MsFrost wrote:

Firstly i would like to thank you for pointing this out to people. As alot of parties expect us clerics to be able to handle everything, They put us at risk when say luring a demon from behind a dragon because we do not want them to die as it makes us feel bad when they do since we are cleric we choose to keep them alive. Some people just get mad at us clerics when they die when it really was difficult to keep them alive in particular situations that i have mentioned above. ._.

Your welcome, my hopes are that this Guide will lead to a better understanding of Clerics in parties such as the one you mentioned. It's a difficult job being a Cleric, but hopefully the Guide will assist in educating others... if any of your friends, party mates etc would benefit from the Guide, send them on over to check this out. Let them know as well that I am willing to answer any questions and/or comments that they may have.

It is hard to deal with people that get angry when a Cleric isn't a miracle worker, in these situations they need more healers in the party for sure... as I have stated in the Guide. Also the party's attackers usually seem to have enough time to chat while they play... if they have time for that (ok,i have to say it...) they have time to open up their inventory, take a large health pot and some candy to help take care of themselves as well. They too need to keep an eye on their own health, it's not your job to keep them alive, it's their job to keep themselves alive and you are there just to help out with that task.

When constantly healing and potting up with mana to keep your heals going, there is nothing more that you can do. Rest assured that you will find some people that will appreciate your help and your natural concern for their characters well being, and won't blame you for deaths etc. In my opinion, these appreciative people are the ones to keep in mind to party with the next go around... forget those that lose their temper with you, they are probably overly worked up by the excitement of the fight, they may later thank you for your efforts, but until that time to keep your sanity consider limiting your parties with them and concentrate on the ones that are a joy to party with.

Keep the people that are a joy to party with extra close as well as those that give you some extra mana pots for those parties they too are a treasure as we are taking mana pots almost constantly during these fights and we can only buy the small pots from NPC's and these parties tend to cost us a fortune in game gold to keep people alive.

As far as what you can do for yourself... you can learn (as I did) to say "no" to parties with certain players if you are not willing to deal with their unreasonable expectations or if they don't cooperate with working as a good party should (what I call a piece of well oiled machinery.) By your enabling yourself to saying the word "no" people will usually respect your decision, open their eyes to problems that certain players may cause you, etc... what's the worse that could happen? well they may not want you in their party as a result... but the best that can happen is respect for you and some self respect for you as well.

Good luck my fellow Cleric... my wish for you is to find the perfect people to join you in your adventures!

Great post! i have been in many partys and I find that to many people take you for granted. Most get mad when the healer/cleric dies. They don't think that all they are doing is trying to keep you alive and not fighting. I am constantly trying to protect the healer but it seams that I am the only one that does it. At the level that I am at I can't fight more than one monster at a time so some times it becomes dificult.

I think every one that plays Last Chaos should read this post.

Kudos to you and I would love to party with you some time.

babydol wrote:

It is hard to deal with people that get angry when a Cleric isn't a miracle worker, in these situations they need more healers in the party for sure... as I have stated in the Guide. Also the party's attackers usually seem to have enough time to chat while they play... if they have time for that (ok,i have to say it...) they have time to open up their inventory, take a large health pot and some candy to help take care of themselves as well. They too need to keep an eye on their own health, it's not your job to keep them alive, it's their job to keep themselves alive and you are there just to help out with that task.

As I said before in the healer forum, this topic is a MUST READ for everyone who want a cleric in their parties.

I did pass a very hard time don't liking my cleric class because these kind of people. I learned how to say no, and i took a time for sp farming and pet training and for being with myself and my guild mates. Now I love my cleric role again

And I hope I can know more nice ppl to party with too! I'm open again to new friends who treat me with respect, so that's why I love this guide so much.

Thanks again for your efforts on this

martyn542000 wrote:

Great post! i have been in many partys and I find that to many people take you for granted. Most get mad when the healer/cleric dies. They don't think that all they are doing is trying to keep you alive and not fighting. I am constantly trying to protect the healer but it seams that I am the only one that does it. At the level that I am at I can't fight more than one monster at a time so some times it becomes dificult. I think every one that plays Last Chaos should read this post. Kudos to you and I would love to party with you some time.

Aw, your so kind! Yes, we do love our protectors out there, I have been fortunate as to have found several good people in game that quickly come to my aid when things get a bit hairy. I am glad to know that there are more of you out there like this!

Thanks for the Kudos, and I'd love to party with you sometime as well.

Oh, I just noticed your Sig., wow way cool, I am so flattered that you thought that much of my Guide to add that into your Sig.! Thank you!

I play Asheara, and my home server is C2, hope to run into you sometime in game.

Rosada wrote:

babydol wrote: It is hard to deal with people that get angry when a Cleric isn't a miracle worker, in these situations they need more healers in the party for sure... as I have stated in the Guide. Also the party's attackers usually seem to have enough time to chat while they play... if they have time for that (ok,i have to say it...) they have time to open up their inventory, take a large health pot and some candy to help take care of themselves as well. They too need to keep an eye on their own health, it's not your job to keep them alive, it's their job to keep themselves alive and you are there just to help out with that task.   As I said before in the healer forum, this topic is a MUST READ for everyone who want a cleric in their parties. I did pass a very hard time don't liking my cleric class because these kind of people. I learned how to say no, and i took a time for sp farming and pet training and for being with myself and my guild mates. Now I love my cleric role again And I hope I can know more nice ppl to party with too! I'm open again to new friends who treat me with respect, so that's why I love this guide so much. Thanks again for your efforts on this

Thank you once again Rosada for your kind words. This guide was made with all of us in mind, it wasn't purely a selfless act as I saw a need for something of this nature in the form of a Guide as I have experienced the frustrations of my chosen Character Profession as a Cleric and I couldn't imagine that I was the only one.

Yes it is very important to prevent "burn out" playing your character. You take time to do some other things...not just heal all the time and get in the odd shot now and then. But like you said, say "no" to people, take time out to SP farm for yourself and party with your Guild and the people on your "trusted" friends list.

Thank again for your kindness and support of my Guide Rosada... I hope for you as well that you can find more nice people to party with as well... besure to put those people on your friends list or keep a note book by your side. Hey I do both, keeping a notebook of those I don't wish to party with and those that have been highly supportive, helpful... ie: if a mage helps me keep my mana up, or someone tells the others before I have a chance to that I need a mana break... or those that notice i am still buffing the party and ask others to wait till i am ready, or even those that help giving me mana pots etc... I keep this all journaled (or try too through the madness of some parties I may miss details and names at times) this helps me decide whether or not I wish to party in dangerous situations or not with these people and if they are on my friends list, I know exactly who I am looking for and for what kind of support our party needs if it's not already arranged by others. Yes even looking for support for a rogue with full lvl snares by looking at my list of those who have Concentration (Royal Knights skill) for this too helps to save the health of my party.

As usual I could go on and on... but alas I diverge...

Rosada, I hope that this message finds you doing well, it sure sounds like you are. It was nice to hear from you once again on this subject. Take care

Nice guide babydol.
Since it's very difficult to find smart posts these days.

PS: Rogue with xbow is good to cut mobs off healers' tails or intercept with snare.

Sha wrote:

Nice guide babydol. Since it's very difficult to find smart posts these days. PS: Rogue with xbow is good to cut mobs off healers' tails or intercept with snare.

Hi, your message coming to a dyslexic gal with ADD is happy news! I was afraid that my message would be at the very least ADD infused. lol... thank god for spell checks, dyslexia hardly played a role. *giggle*

Yes I agree with you about the Rogue with Xbow...have been fortunate, when demon hunting a few times my hubby has come with and he's a Rogue Hunter Class and all I have to do is say "OH HELP" lol... unfortunately he has less a tolerance for bad demon parties then I have, so he doesn't go very often. We can more often be found hunting boggles just he and I together. Aren't we cute? lol

Thanks for the post... I hope you have happy Hunting, a lot of fun and meet a lot of interesting people! Maybe I will run into you sometime, if your on C servers (I am mostly on C2) and my in game name is Asheara.

Thank you again.

Hi babydoll, I created a forum for new players and added a link to your forum there too. Check it out.
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