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PostedMar 18, 2014 3:39 pm

Best Eidolon for Classes

At least easiest to get ones
This is what I think, what do you guys think?

First of all, the Easy to get Eidolons:
-------------------- Aelius : heal and cure status, -30% crit DMG taken,
----------------------------- star buff : Move SPD +5%, EVA+5%
----------------------------- trophy : Aelius Heal +15%, HP +10%
-------------------- Alessa : damage, DoT effect
----------------------------- star buff : +25% ATK SPD, 5% chance to Double Attack
----------------------------- trophy : Alessa have 20% chance to stun target for 4 sec
-------------------- Bahadur : heal, -20% DMG taken
----------------------------- star buff : chance to be CRIT reduced by 25%, 1% Life leech
----------------------------- trophy : Bahadur DMG +15%, DEF +10%
-------------------- Bel-Chandra : +Crit, CRIT DMG +20%, decrease target EVA
----------------------------- star buff : +25% ATK SPD, +5% CRIT
----------------------------- trophy : Bel-Chandera have 30% chance to triple hit
-------------------- Eligos : damage, decrease target DEF, +20% ACC
----------------------------- star buff : +25% ATK SPD, DMG +8%
----------------------------- trophy : Eligo's CRIT +20%, CRIT DMG +50%
-------------------- Gigas: decrease target Move SPD
----------------------------- star buff : +15% dmg against Lightning Target, DEF +5%
----------------------------- trophy : Gigas HP +20%, DMG taken -20%
-------------------- Grimm: decrease target Move SPD
----------------------------- star buff : +15% dmg against Flame Targets, DMG +8%
----------------------------- trophy : Grimm's damage +40%
-------------------- Merrilee: damage, DoT effect, HoT effect
----------------------------- star buff : Move SPD +5%, Heal +5%
----------------------------- trophy : Merrilee Heal +25%
-------------------- Serif: damage
----------------------------- star buff : -50% crit DMG taken, HP +10%
----------------------------- trophy : Serif's attacks have a 30% chance to triple hit
-------------------- Sigrun: decrease Target EVA, DoT effect, Reflect 30% dmg taken and heals
----------------------------- star buff : -50% crit DMG taken, DEF +5%
----------------------------- trophy : Sigrun HP +25%, DEF +10%
-------------------- Tigerus Ceasar: DoT effect, Move SPD +20%
----------------------------- star buff : +15% dmg against Lightning Target, 5% chance to Double Attack
----------------------------- trophy : Tigerus ACC +50%, CRIT +20%
-------------------- Uzuriel: +CRIT, CRIT DMG +20%
----------------------------- star buff : +15% dmg against Storm Target, CRIT DMG +20%
----------------------------- trophy : Uzuriel's attack have 20% chance to decrease target DEF by 5%
-------------------- Yarnaros : +DMG
----------------------------- star buff : +25% ATK SPD, DMG +8%
----------------------------- trophy : Yarnaros' attack have 25% chance to decrease target Heal by 50%


Guardian
-------------------- Sigrun: decrease Target EVA, DoT effect, Reflect 30% dmg taken and heals
----------------------------- star buff : -50% crit DMG taken, DEF +5%
----------------------------- trophy : Sigrun HP +25%, DEF +10%

Duelist
-------------------- Eligos : damage, decrease target DEF, +20% ACC
----------------------------- star buff : +25% ATK SPD, DMG +8%
----------------------------- trophy : Eligo's CRIT +20%, CRIT DMG +50%

Ravager
-------------------- Bahadur : heal, -20% DMG taken
----------------------------- star buff : chance to be CRIT reduced by 25%, 1% Life leech
----------------------------- trophy : Bahadur DMG +15%, DEF +10%

Wizard
-------------------- Bel-Chandra : +Crit, CRIT DMG +20%, decrease target EVA
----------------------------- star buff : +25% ATK SPD, +5% CRIT
----------------------------- trophy : Bel-Chandera have 30% chance to triple hit

Sorcerer
-------------------- Tigerus Ceasar: DoT effect, Move SPD +20%
----------------------------- star buff : +15% dmg against Lightning Target, 5% chance to Double Attack
----------------------------- trophy : Tigerus ACC +50%, CRIT +20%

Bard
-------------------- Merrilee: damage, DoT effect, HoT effect
----------------------------- star buff : Move SPD +5%, Heal +5%
----------------------------- trophy : Merrilee Heal +25%

Grenadier
-------------------- Uzuriel: +CRIT, CRIT DMG +20%
----------------------------- star buff : +15% dmg against Storm Target, CRIT DMG +20%
----------------------------- trophy : Uzuriel's attack have 20% chance to decrease target DEF by 5%

Gunslinger
-------------------- Tigerus Ceasar: DoT effect, Move SPD +20%
----------------------------- star buff : +15% dmg against Lightning Target, 5% chance to Double Attack
----------------------------- trophy : Tigerus ACC +50%, CRIT +20%

Brawler
-------------------- Alessa : damage, DoT effect
----------------------------- star buff : +25% ATK SPD, 5% chance to Double Attack
----------------------------- trophy : Alessa have 20% chance to stun target for 4 sec

Warbow
-------------------- Alessa : damage, DoT effect
----------------------------- star buff : +25% ATK SPD, 5% chance to Double Attack
----------------------------- trophy : Alessa have 20% chance to stun target for 4 sec

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PostedMar 18, 2014 3:59 pm
Who would ever use Alessa just to get her garbage 2-star buff. Especially on a warbow. Also, you might as well add Zaahir to the easy to access Eidolons since he's fairly common/easy to get.

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PostedMar 18, 2014 4:10 pm
I don't see why Bel-Chandra/Uzuriel aren't suggested for all the dps classes + sorc (since we're support rather than dps). Assuming one gets a trophy and depending on cores/secret stones, it can get way too varying to just say "this is a cookie cutter Eidolon that goes best with build X".

But speaking as a main sorc, I find Bel-Chandra/Uzuriel to be more useful than any of the others listed here. Tigerius? Uhh why? CRIT + CRIT DMG sounds better than DoT and Move SPD combined. Double Attack chance ain't worth it.

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PostedMar 18, 2014 4:48 pm
 
Who would ever use Alessa just to get her garbage 2-star buff. Especially on a warbow. Also, you might as well add Zaahir to the easy to access Eidolons since he's fairly common/easy to get.  

I didn't place in Zaahir cause that's mainly from Infernal Abyss, not everyone can do that dungeon constantly a day, maybe just 1 a day. (and I don't think he drops a Frag every run)

noble.blizzaja wrote:
I don't see why Bel-Chandra/Uzuriel aren't suggested for all the dps classes + sorc (since we're support rather than dps). Assuming one gets a trophy and depending on cores/secret stones, it can get way too varying to just say "this is a cookie cutter Eidolon that goes best with build X".

But speaking as a main sorc, I find Bel-Chandra/Uzuriel to be more useful than any of the others listed here. Tigerius? Uhh why? CRIT + CRIT DMG sounds better than DoT and Move SPD combined. Double Attack chance ain't worth it.  


interesting, I had place Alessa for Warbow cause the speed would benefit the best, since most Warbow are already full SPD, so you'll be shooting bunch of extra attacks in between skills faster.
Also, since Warbow doesn't really have any Stun (unless you sub-class one), Alessa's Trophy would be pretty good.
Plus, the chance to Double Attack would stack with Warbow's other Double Attack chances.
8% from Envoy, 30% from Blessing of Wind, than there are Zeal and Weapon Procs, would be pretty powerful if they all proc, especially with a fast regular attack, it would proc more often.

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PostedMar 18, 2014 5:07 pm
animagisity wrote:
noble.blizzaja wrote:
I don't see why Bel-Chandra/Uzuriel aren't suggested for all the dps classes + sorc (since we're support rather than dps). Assuming one gets a trophy and depending on cores/secret stones, it can get way too varying to just say "this is a cookie cutter Eidolon that goes best with build X".

But speaking as a main sorc, I find Bel-Chandra/Uzuriel to be more useful than any of the others listed here. Tigerius? Uhh why? CRIT + CRIT DMG sounds better than DoT and Move SPD combined. Double Attack chance ain't worth it.  


interesting, I had place Alessa for Warbow cause the speed would benefit the best, since most Warbow are already full SPD, so you'll be shooting bunch of extra attacks in between skills faster.
Also, since Warbow doesn't really have any Stun (unless you sub-class one), Alessa's Trophy would be pretty good.
Plus, the chance to Double Attack would stack with Warbow's other Double Attack chances.
8% from Envoy, 30% from Blessing of Wind, than there are Zeal and Weapon Procs, would be pretty powerful if they all proc, especially with a fast regular attack, it would proc more often.  


Haven't toyed around with having high ATK SPD but it doesn't sound that appealing with neigh spammable skills.
As a ranged class, I don't really see a need for stun when ranger has burst skills + slow. Also, Alessa's stats are garbage lol.
How useful a Double Attack is would have to depend on your own stats so I can't give as much as an opinion as for sorc since rangers have more ways to boost it.

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PostedMar 18, 2014 5:14 pm
A shota, a digimon, a loli and a pony. I'd say none of the starters.
They are ugly to look at and stupid lol.

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PostedMar 18, 2014 5:53 pm
I read somewhere probably on these forums that attack speed passive doesn't relate to skills only auto attack so its basically a waste. TBH im finding Sigrun best with my warbow in pvp, reflect and -50% crit dam is awesome. Though if you notice on the Eidolon list, the last one has the best passives of all I think its Yukisana or something - CRIT DAM +20% 1 star - 5% double att chance - coupled with food and the warbow 30% chance - big numbers are inevitable.

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PostedMar 18, 2014 5:59 pm
Endora is pretty great too with her +5% crit and 8% damage. Not to mention her acc will make enemies get hit by 30% more crit dmg.

Shame that it's hard to get her though

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PostedMar 18, 2014 6:00 pm
spudgun1971 wrote:
I read somewhere probably on these forums that attack speed passive doesn't relate to skills only auto attack so its basically a waste. TBH im finding Sigrun best with my warbow in pvp, reflect and -50% crit dam is awesome. Though if you notice on the Eidolon list, the last one has the best passives of all I think its Yukisana or something - CRIT DAM +20% 1 star - 5% double att chance - coupled with food and the warbow 30% chance - big numbers are inevitable.  

Yes ATK SPD is for auto attacks but TC was speaking about how your character can auto attack between skills.

I can't speak form a PvP standpoint so I won't say anything about Sigrun or Shirayuki's usefulness there. Also from what I gather, Shirayuki will be fortune bag exclusive (for now at least) like Vermillion.


Kryuzei wrote:
Shame that it's hard to get her though  

And that's why she's not on the list lol.

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PostedMar 18, 2014 6:01 pm
spudgun1971 wrote:
I read somewhere probably on these forums that attack speed passive doesn't relate to skills only auto attack so its basically a waste. TBH im finding Sigrun best with my warbow in pvp, reflect and -50% crit dam is awesome. Though if you notice on the Eidolon list, the last one has the best passives of all I think its Yukisana or something - CRIT DAM +20% 1 star - 5% double att chance - coupled with food and the warbow 30% chance - big numbers are inevitable.  


yes, by regular attack I mean auto attack.

however, auto attack's hit per second is still affected by your total Speed.

With Warbow going mostly SPD, it means you'll be shooting a lot of auto attack in between skill castings.

And yes, even if you cast skill non-stop, your auto attack is still being fired off either before or after you cast a skill, it's why it's called "auto"

At least this is what I notice for my Grenadier when I cast Salvo, Fiery, Plasma constantly one after another without stopping.



Serena-TW is what you mean, however she's a Cash Only Eidolon ATM, even in TW I think.
So... she's no where near the list of easy to obtain Eidolons, unless you going by Cash Route... but than that would mean all Eidolons are easy to obtain, LOL...



Also, the stat you gain from Eidolon isn't that huge of a deal.
What's important is the skill buff/debuff and star buffs, and some trophies.
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