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PostedJan 07, 2014 7:46 pm   Last edited by MoGAznRebel on Jan 10, 2014 11:55 pm. Edited 2 times in total

Grenadier Recommended Stat Builds

If there are any helpful tips, please put them in this thread.
Hi Guys! All you Grennies who need a hand! or all the Vets who have a hand to help with! Couple of questions arise when creating Grennies (Grenadiers) and I'll say what I can to help you guys out. If there are any further improvements to what I have said, please feel free to give your opinion. If you disagree, please produce helpful advice!

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I myself experimented with the Crit/Eva build and was pretty successful with it during CBT. And I will say this: personally, i think having to juggle two stats (though may be versatile and helpful along the way) is a little too complicated to think when going around, bombing things and what not. In this section, i'll just explain what each does and hope it'll shed let on what you want.

Don't put points into DMG. It only improves it marginally.

Full Crit/ Full Eva ---> Very good in dealing high damage. As long as you get your Crit between the 45%+ range, i think you're good to go on anything =). Trust me, it isn't hard. You don't even need the right gears for it. (Okay, maybe just focus on the gears that give Crit and Eva like Caroline's Touch of Wind )

Full SPD/Full DEF ---> I heard this was very good to use too, basically a Tank (you know, the real life ones with the cannons =)?) The only thing I've noticed with this one is that... When you get around 50% SPD, i think the extra points going into it, would be meaningless as it doesn't decrease the cooldown rate of the skills anymore.

And any mix of the two stats would work, as long as you get them AT THE VERY LEAST to 35%.

There's a lot of freedom to do what you want, and make what you want here sooo feel free to tell your experiments =).

This Is What I Did:


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As you can see I set most of all of my points, thus far, into Crit, giving me the Crit rate I have there. Though that is not your TRUE crit rate. You must go to your detailed list for that =).

As for the defensive stats, I was testing around with the Def and the Hp! I'm still deciding on whether or not it'd be beneficial for the Hp but I think I might reroll into full Def. Though a few points into Hp wouldn't matter xD.

Envoy's Paths:



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(Will be revised and feel free to give your recommendations!)

I know this is not much of a guide for now, but this is just an idea to give starters a boost. Of course, it needs work and of course, it could definitely be improved! Work in progress! Thanks for the support xD![b]
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PostedJan 07, 2014 9:54 pm
I was reading a bard guide and it looks like spd helps with the dot/sec. I am guessing crit/spd and def/hp will be a nice combo

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PostedJan 07, 2014 9:59 pm
SPD helps lower CD rate and cast times if i remember correctly. But thing is, Grens don't have cast times for skills, just long cool downs. And i say that SPD wouldn't help much is because, you need it to reach a certain percentage for it to be effective and once that percentage is hit.. it's hard to keep it going for the lack of gears toward that stat. BUT! I agree that it would benefit you if you could pull it off (and i've seen people who have Very Happy)

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PostedJan 08, 2014 12:52 am
oo7don wrote:
I was reading a bard guide and it looks like spd helps with the dot/sec. I am guessing crit/spd and def/hp will be a nice combo  

Spd doesn't affect dot. Different skills have different dmg intervals (duelist skills are every 0.8 secs and gren is 0.9)

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PostedJan 08, 2014 7:58 am

envoy

please post ur envoy. i appreciate it. thanks

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PostedJan 08, 2014 9:52 am

Re: envoy

seishin27 wrote:
please post ur envoy. i appreciate it. thanks  

That depends on what build u r looking for. My ST envoy path for crit/eva was: all eva, then crit rate lv2 and 3, skills of rocket blade and gale blade (or whatever the dot is) then straight down from rocket blade I went through all the hp, crit dmg taken - and acc onez to get the aoe, btw when I say all hp, crit dmg taken and acc I mean jus the onez I needed to go through for the aoe

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PostedJan 08, 2014 2:50 pm
I actually did the math on DEF/EVA, and you get the most damage reduction from a 1:1 build. Or maybe the most is some ridiculous 2.48349:1; I just know that 1:1 is better than full, but it's not a major difference either way.

You're right about DMG, though. Don't do DMG. Didn't do any calculation on SPD vs. CRIT, though, but I went full CRIT myself.

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PostedJan 09, 2014 6:28 am
im going full crit. and def/hp. what do u think is the best ratio for def and hp. like 3:1 or 2:1

and for my envoy, im starting to get crazy on what path to get -_-

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PostedJan 09, 2014 6:33 am

subclass combo skills

and what subclass combo skill is the best? the one with disable would be awesome. tnx guys. didnt have the chance to play obt Sad so thanks for all the help. i appreciate it

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PostedJan 10, 2014 7:50 am
seishin27 wrote:
im going full crit. and def/hp. what do u think is the best ratio for def and hp. like 3:1 or 2:1

and for my envoy, im starting to get crazy on what path to get -_-  


I went for full crit and def myself. Not only am I bombing with high damage, I also sustain in dungeons. I don't die too much. Putting some on SPD is not a bad thing. A fast CD to Meteor Cannon (of course with stun when put as Ultimate Skill) is not a bad thing either.
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