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casziell

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PostedDec 25, 2013 1:49 pm

Guardian Full Tank

A small guide to be a full tank guardian:

Offensive points: put on speed to decrease the CD of skills and especially the skill Roar that is used to keep the aggro for you.

Defensive points: puts everything in defense cuz he's tank.

Envoys paths: choose options with defense and speed and get the passive skill that give you 50% of malice and get too the passive that reduce 75% of damage when you are stunned.

A good combination would be with the bard because of the skills of healing, it saves u money on potions and is almost invincible in PVE.

This build is not very good for PvP.

If anyone has any other tips ..
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JohnnyFlame

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PostedDec 25, 2013 2:23 pm
Points in SPD and DEF are worthless if you have good equips.

So,if you're poor:
SPD/DEF.

If you're richey richey player:
DMG or SPD/HP

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fran0711

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PostedDec 25, 2013 2:25 pm
Ty for the tips!

darkslayax

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PostedDec 25, 2013 4:38 pm
I'm guardian/Sorc, and I went full all hp and full speed. My gear gives 45% defense already, and phalanx gives guardians 30% defense.

Now correct me if I'm wrong here, does this skill make it so there's 45 + 30 for the cap for 75? or is it taking 30% of my 45% to make roughly 60%?

Here lies the dead defender- Diamondine ~

NerdKingDork

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PostedDec 25, 2013 5:00 pm
darkslayax wrote:
I'm guardian/Sorc, and I went full all hp and full speed. My gear gives 45% defense already, and phalanx gives guardians 30% defense.

Now correct me if I'm wrong here, does this skill make it so there's 45 + 30 for the cap for 75? or is it taking 30% of my 45% to make roughly 60%?  


it's a buff that gives you -30% dmg taken. so let's say you have -45% defense and use the buff, you will have -75% but the buff will not show the 30% physically. Also if you 70% base defense and you use phalanx (the -30% dmg buff) you will have -100% dmg taken. You will take almost NO damage from raw dps, only DoT.

darkslayax

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PostedDec 25, 2013 9:50 pm
NerdKingDork wrote:
darkslayax wrote:
I'm guardian/Sorc, and I went full all hp and full speed. My gear gives 45% defense already, and phalanx gives guardians 30% defense.

Now correct me if I'm wrong here, does this skill make it so there's 45 + 30 for the cap for 75? or is it taking 30% of my 45% to make roughly 60%?  


it's a buff that gives you -30% dmg taken. so let's say you have -45% defense and use the buff, you will have -75% but the buff will not show the 30% physically. Also if you 70% base defense and you use phalanx (the -30% dmg buff) you will have -100% dmg taken. You will take almost NO damage from raw dps, only DoT.  


In short, this bypasses the 75% defense cap?

Here lies the dead defender- Diamondine ~

qawsar

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PostedDec 25, 2013 10:07 pm
JohnnyFlame wrote:

So,if you're poor:
SPD/DEF.

If you're richey richey player:
DMG or SPD/HP  


^ That is all, stat wise.
Gear wise.. there's lots of combinations. But I'll get into that once crafting is in QQ

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PostedDec 25, 2013 10:12 pm
qawsar wrote:
JohnnyFlame wrote:

So,if you're poor:
SPD/DEF.

If you're richey richey player:
DMG or SPD/HP  


^ That is all, stat wise.
Gear wise.. there's lots of combinations. But I'll get into that once crafting is in QQ  


Personally I've been snagging Def and HP envoy paths so i can offset placing points in my Dmg and SPD it's working alright so far

NerdKingDork

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PostedDec 26, 2013 4:01 am
darkslayax wrote:
NerdKingDork wrote:
darkslayax wrote:
I'm guardian/Sorc, and I went full all hp and full speed. My gear gives 45% defense already, and phalanx gives guardians 30% defense.

Now correct me if I'm wrong here, does this skill make it so there's 45 + 30 for the cap for 75? or is it taking 30% of my 45% to make roughly 60%?  


it's a buff that gives you -30% dmg taken. so let's say you have -45% defense and use the buff, you will have -75% but the buff will not show the 30% physically. Also if you 70% base defense and you use phalanx (the -30% dmg buff) you will have -100% dmg taken. You will take almost NO damage from raw dps, only DoT.  


In short, this bypasses the 75% defense cap?  


yeah from what I've tested it's basically +30% of whatever your physical defense % is

FearMyWrath

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PostedJan 06, 2014 6:52 am
If its -30% dmg taken doesn't that means its on a different calculation as defense?
I'd say

DAMAGE = "Damage from attacking players skill" x (100% - def%) x (100%-dmgTaken)

This would mean that if you have 70% def and -30% dmg taken, an attack of 1000 raw dmg would result in 700dmg less because of defense which leaves only 300dmg. and 30% of that is removed by the -30%dmg taken. Which leads to 200dmg final

"1000" x (100-70) x (100-30) = 200 right?

Could anyone confirm this or correct me?

Disclaimer: I know 30% of 300 isn't exactly 100 its 90 but for educational easygoing..
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