I can kill anyone except Bards with that build and sub as duelist, the only reason Bard are so annoying is the heals, without going ravager you dont have the stuns you need to beat them, that would be the only reason I would take ravager as a sub, but I prefer PvE, the PvP on this game does not seem to have much use right now ? correct me if im wrong.
I did think about going with bard as a sub, for the heals but what other use does it have as a sub?
I must say i didn't want to sound so affirmative or offensive on my last post. I wanted to avoid you, fellow guardians, to face some problem at later lvls.
If have to explain a bit more my opinion on guardian i'd say:
-it's not rly a pvp focused class, the current pvp (arena) revolve around teamfights, aside duel which are just for "fun", your utility in those teamfight are very limited, people don't need to kill you and you can't really kill them since it's not a duel, all you can do is use some CC on them to help your mates.
-PvE-wise, guardian is with bard the less damaging class, while questing you will rely mainly on your eidolon to finish the job.
In instances, while in this beta you feel wanted in pt, you'll realize later, unless our version get a serious buff on dungeon mobs, most pt won't need a tank, simply because a well geared character can do the job (tank) and even solo the instances. At lv 60 instances are hard, untill people get again well geared you will shine again, and will be needed in pt. Unfortunately the same scenario will happen and you might be left aside because as long as lvl and gears ppl won't need that much of a tank (while bard will still be needed).
Fortunately very hard instnace like sky tower will save you, because on this peculiar dungeons ppl will need you.
-Now about the subs, duelist, ravager or bard are totally legit builds, it's really a matter of role and preference, as i said if you go the way of ultimate tank the subs go bard>ravager>duelist.
Bard sub is for tankiness, you get many heals, HOT (this will allow your bard in pt to ignore you a bit and also avoid getting aggroed), and a stun (which range can be enhanced greatly by a blue secret stone). You won't die easily at the cost of your dmg (which can be negated by +20 your sword) however again at later lvls if ppl need a tank they will chose you compared to a tank with damage.
Ravager and duelist subs, are totally fine, but unlike harp they rely more on lifesteal (which will cost a lot as gears), they have more damage, Ravager comes with a set that allows you with it's extra large aie stun to keep almost full time large amount of mobs aggroed, while duelist will be able to aoe damage alot as well as DoT the boss.
I said it the wrong waylast time but all subs discussed are fine, from my experience of high lvl, let's be honest if you're a guardian you want to fulfill your role to its maximun, thus instead of being average in many ways tank/dmg, it's somehow better to be a pure meat shield. The only downside is the questing, you better +20 your sword, regarding pvp it's so-so just support your team like an unkillable bard.