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sparkmikomiko

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PostedApr 02, 2013 1:17 am
Item malls that work.

PSO2: You buy a ticket for 300AC that has 3 slots, one of those 3 slots has a rare item (costume, hairstyles, voice options, etc), one has a furniture item, and one has a non-rare but still very useful item (upgrading equipment, decreasing failure rate, etc.). For 500AC you buy a ticket that has 3 slots, all 3 slots have rare costume items inside!

They have been literally making a small mint off of players buying these tickets. So how much is AC? 100AC=100yen or little over an dollar. It's still a gamble, but a gamble with a high payoff that keeps people coming back to play more and more. I've spent 30 bucks and not get the item I wanted but didn't feel cheated or like it was a waste of money in the slightest.

There's good ways and bad ways to do things, and this item mall is a bad way to do it.
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masterdrakan

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PostedApr 02, 2013 1:40 am
indeed and this why many choose to buy from evil farmers since i cheaper to buy the gold and then aeria get mad since is their cash (thats how they see it) but wo drive the player to do it in fist place

a good mall was my hope but all the time is the same greed win and gamers just dont care
but i just lose hope almost no care they are fine with this and things will only get worse

still your post sparkmikomiko tell me that some care and want better games and not the same crap over and over again

hope pso2 come out soon x3

esley2007

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PostedApr 02, 2013 6:43 am

true

masterdrakan wrote:
PandaRaja wrote:
Sorry that you're unlucky, but thats how the gachapon system works.  


ok say anything you want but thes item lists of this cubes are
[Lock] 50 Shades of Black Gear (SE) x1
[Lock] 50 Shades of Black Gear (DE) x1
[Lock] 50 Shades of Black Gear (ME) x1
[Lock] 50 Shades of Black Gear (PU) x1
[Lock] 50 Shades of Black Gear (SW) x1
[Lock] 50 Shades of Black Gear (WH) x1
Cyberskin Backpack (30 day) (NT) x1
1 Hour Pet EXP Booster (+5) x1
Pet Scrap x2
Mother's Miracle (NT) x1
Rare Grafting Tool (NT) x1
CP Hypovial (+300) x1
1 Hour EXP Booster (+50%) x1
SP Crisis Hypovial L20 x3
HP Crisis Hypovial L20 x3

6/15 chance of getting the cosplay now see my list and tell me IS THAT FAIR??
is that a good deal???
and then i ask you are fine with aeria scaming other gamers??
just thing about it  


he is right, this is a scam, theft, a lot bought tons of items like this and didn't get any usefull item, maybe 5/26000 got the set and most likely they can't even wear it or have the char for it
i'm sorry to say this, but that's not even gambling with a chance percentage of 0.00019230769% per player its called impossible, and don't forget most bought sets of 20 packages, which then makes it even lower success rate if you want to put it per package

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BillyBallo89

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PostedApr 02, 2013 7:13 am
unlucky

itzjazzy

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PostedApr 02, 2013 7:54 am
Apollo20 wrote:
...They're not scamming anyone. Just because there are 6 different Black gear doesn't mean your chances of getting one you want are any greater. It sucks you didn't get at least one out of all those tries but that's just how it goes and you really can't get mad at them because you're the one who decided to spend the money and take the chance every time. Like going to Las Vegas and losing 100 grand and getting mad at the casino because you failed to stop long before that point when you knew you were seriously losing.

I make it a habit of not buying these. Its not worth spending the money on something you'll probably be able to buy individually later anyways.

Life lesson # whatever.... Know when to stop.  
No **** that, there scamming everyone and it's no **** fair. They're counting on people keep spending their money, yet aren't planning on giving us ****. They'll make millions of dollars off of thousands of customers, yet only like 50 IF THAT MANY people actually get something good. **** them =.=

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RepentantDread

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PostedApr 02, 2013 7:56 am
This is almost as bad as complaining you didn't win the lottery. Good grief guys, it's called a gamble for a reason.

ansagon

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PostedApr 02, 2013 8:04 am
Sad to tell, but true. If you go to gamble, you have to be prepared to lose.
But I'd like to know what my chances of winning are. Here in Europe you cannot make any gambling without telling exactly how many chances you have to get an item. Dunno how in California rules are.

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PostedApr 02, 2013 8:07 am
masterdrakan wrote:
Kizuna7 wrote:
Its a gamble, learn to take loses or avoid it all together.

~Lil_Kizuna
 


you can gamble is ok 6/15 chance for a costume
but the list say it
you will get nothing even if you play $150 you get nothing

love how you defend a sistem that scam others gamers so aeria never change after all they are the customer and their enjoyment is why we play  


I actually don't approve of it at all. Although I do approve of one's own common sense. You know that common sense that tells you to STOP after you've spent most of your AP and have yet to to receive even a 2nd tier prize let alone the jackpot.

Reason being why I give you the option to accept it or leave it is because this case isn't new when it comes to other games AGE has hosted(most know them as ruin chests/boxes.) Of those cases no action was taken and despite the poor % rate for their jackpot prizes people still continued to purchase the said product(just as you did.) In the end it is you, the buyer, who is to blame for allowing your own greed to get the better of you.


morterlust wrote:
Kizuna7 wrote:
Its a gamble, learn to take loses or avoid it all together.

~Lil_Kizuna
 


Kiz it's not just that. I would compare this to say playing slots and you almost always get three 7's but never quite. The costumes flash at you at a rate of about 50% of the time yet you never see one aside the spin. It's a dirty lie and quite infuriating one. Naturally it's not hard to know that if you see 2 boxes and 1 has an item, it's not 50/50 that you get the item. In fact code could be written so that you never get the item. Then the trolls will come out of the wood-works and enlighten us with their knowledge "wut??? u lozt all 100 fiddy fiddy chance box guessing game?? U took de gamble u lrned d lezzon kkthxbye", while being completely oblivious to the rigged system that lies beneath. If those stupid cubes at least showed the real results that you would of obtained, for example, say 10th click = your real prize, but until those 10 clicks you would see a real otherwise outcome, I would not be writing this. But instead we see this fish-hook practice where they spew the costumes at you half the times but you never quite get them. Current standing is like 0.25% chance. That's insulting and deceptive.  


There was actually an ex-GM who had told us that the chances of our ruin boxes were just a little over 2.5% per jackpot and 5% 2nd tier if I remember well. This number was conjured out of repeated tests of the product and averaged out to said percentages. I would actually encourage the Scarlet Blade GM/PM's to also do the same for their unlucky boxes for their own personal database.

~Lil_Kizuna

itzjazzy

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PostedApr 02, 2013 8:14 am
sparkmikomiko wrote:
Item malls that work.

PSO2: You buy a ticket for 300AC that has 3 slots, one of those 3 slots has a rare item (costume, hairstyles, voice options, etc), one has a furniture item, and one has a non-rare but still very useful item (upgrading equipment, decreasing failure rate, etc.). For 500AC you buy a ticket that has 3 slots, all 3 slots have rare costume items inside!

They have been literally making a small mint off of players buying these tickets. So how much is AC? 100AC=100yen or little over an dollar. It's still a gamble, but a gamble with a high payoff that keeps people coming back to play more and more. I've spent 30 bucks and not get the item I wanted but didn't feel cheated or like it was a waste of money in the slightest.

There's good ways and bad ways to do things, and this item mall is a bad way to do it.  

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GodofAcid

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PostedApr 02, 2013 8:40 am   Last edited by GodofAcid on Apr 02, 2013 8:52 am. Edited 4 times in total
Precautionary tale guys..

If you play Wartune you know about the VIP wheel. It's scattered with level 6 and 7 gems every time. Guess what? Nobody on our server has ever gotten one. Nobody on any server has gotten one. I went on R2's site, another company that rents the game out like Aeria does, and their forums joke about how the only person who ever got one was named Legend, and he's never been seen again. When people start to talk about the VIP Wheel I simply say "These are the best items you actually have a chance to get. You might as well ignore the rest because they ARE NOT POSSIBLE TO GET!"

In this case, I'd say at least it's possible to get the items advertised. That VIP wheel is a straight up scam. Still, start to understand quickly that you can go through several hundred dollars and not get a thing. You may also buy 1 box and get extremely lucky. I wouldn't bank on that. Know what you're getting yourself into.

And please, please.. understand, just because 6 of the 15 prizes are costumes DOES NOT mean your odds are 6 in 15 to get one. They stick a percentage value on each one. They are most certainly not equal. People may need an explanation on how programming works in this case.. they define the odds using algorithms. That means the odds on one particular outcome may be set to 1/1000 and another 1/2. The Vegas analogy was a great one, because if you've ever seen a slot machine, you know they'll advertise some of them with such things as "Payback rate of 98%". What this means is that those machines pay back 98 cents for every dollar spent. It also means THEY FIX THE ODDS ON THOSE MACHINES! How else could they advertise that without it being a lie? They make their money by knowing for every dollar spent, they'll make two cents. Doesn't sound like much.. but when you consider thousands of machines and tens of thousands of customers a day, and chances are every single one of those is spending more than a dollar, it adds up.

The way they're doing it, and how ethical that is, is a different discussion than what I'm getting into here, I'm just saying, please, understand it for what it is. If you're reading this, you should have an idea now if you didn't before. You don't have 6 in 15 odds just because 6 of the possible prizes are costumes.
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