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jgentry91

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PostedMar 27, 2013 7:32 am

Leadshot/Ping

Mk so where to begin... Um, I find myself having a REALLY hard time tih Leadshot for many reasons.In Big Deathmathes/TDM's. tha various ping I see all day/every day/every room takes way too much concentration to deal with.

I can't find tha focus to identy tha numurous Pings in a room and then manage to find tha Hit Boxes in all tha chaos in those AnD hallways. One PB and I'm toast I understand "Dropping" people. And People aren't dropping for me.

I don't know what kinda help anyone can offer me besides recommending I find my way to an Anti-Lead server. Mad Or directing me to a Youtube video(I've studied em all)Or break down tha numbers for me. Maybe some pro will come along and take me under his wing and elighten me. I was dropped today by a 110 Pinger who didn't have a clue what Leadshot is......Confused I'm at witz end.
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PostedMar 28, 2013 1:05 am
The ones by fruitbombs on youtube are decent starting references. But after that I recommend doing 1v1s on separate pings after you have a general idea.


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PostedMar 28, 2013 1:07 am
Formalitys wrote:
The ones by fruitbombs on youtube are decent starting references. But after that I recommend doing 1v1s on separate pings after you have a general idea.  
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Lol Been all through them vids. Thanks I guess I'll just Host Training rooms =/ like a narb

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PostedMar 28, 2013 5:41 am
The fruitbombs videos are the best recommendation I can give to you.

As for playing in larger rooms such as DM or TDM - I usually just average the pings, and if there are any pings that are really inconsistent to the rest of the pings I tend to focus on those ones as well.

For example: If you have pings like 40, 50, 30, and 130 - I would average the pings to 40 and even though it's just in the middle you'd still be doing decent damage. That way you just need to focus on two numbers, 40, and 130.

40 ping:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WL5cztfeZs

70 ping:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir-YSZrwvNc

100 ping:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5svsMboxLI

130 ping:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpw3YaaKfZY

My favorite way to train/practice my lead is doing 1 vs. 1's and using powershot aka lazy aim.

You have to understand as well that lead is a skill, and "lead crosshairs" do not help you.

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PostedMar 28, 2013 5:54 am
I think, with some more dilgent 1 v 1 practice, I could narrow my problem to to mainitaing focus. Keeping in Mind a couple meduims. Maybe also stop Chasing a Kill after so much ammo has been wasted. LOL

If anyone would like to help me train lead aim Please Whisper me In quest 1(what else?) IGN = Juniah, VersusFate

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PostedMar 28, 2013 10:39 am
jgentry91 wrote:
I think, with some more dilgent 1 v 1 practice, I could narrow my problem to to mainitaing focus. Keeping in Mind a couple meduims. Maybe also stop Chasing a Kill after so much ammo has been wasted. LOL

If anyone would like to help me train lead aim Please Whisper me In quest 1(what else?) IGN = Juniah, VersusFate  


If you'd like to, maybe sometime this evening, we could 1v1 and practice lead. :)

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PostedMar 28, 2013 8:33 pm
I would Love to! Just whisper me On Juniah =D

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PostedMar 28, 2013 8:48 pm
Well don't start in the wrong direction...here's some pointers:

-More than 8 players in a room -> Group players. Say you're playing a 16 player garden TDM in exp2. Most of them are going to be low ping and a few will lag, or vice versa. Memorize the minority (less amount) and just lead the majority ping. What will happen in-game is that you will shoot once or twice and then realize who you're shooting at and adjust accordingly if he or she is one of the names you memorized.

-Youtube vids on lead won't help you at all. Learn by playing and experimenting! Don't memorize distances or marks or anything. Feel the time you have to lead (not any physical numbers) and you'll get it in no time. Experience will help a ton with this. Eventually you will be able to look at an opponent with say 80 ping and point to a bunch of different spots he will go. After that, it's just prediction, which is a skill as well as guessing.

-Play smart. If your opponent is low he will run for cover, he may dash away from it once or twice or just stand there to make u waste a shot. Use ideas like this to help you with predictions.

-As hinted in the first point, if you're playing a deathmatch or something..usually I don't bother learning pings at all. Why? Well, scores don't matter, and it's too much work. It's not a good idea to do so. If you can group the players, then that works perfectly. If the game has a bunch of different pings, just go with the flow. As you're playing, learn the pings of any players giving you a hard time and push back now that you know their ping (this mostly comes after learning how to lead different pings). TDMs of 12 and more are usually difficult for this reason, especially with numerous enemies running around the map. You'll find what works best for you. Worst case scenario = you forget someone's ping, try to lure him into a tight space and/or sword him quickly and you can judge his ping based on how long it takes him to flinch.

-As far as learning to lead goes.....it's a bit complicated. 1v1s are your best bet (not duels in hall). Or entering rooms where everyone is mostly one ping is really beneficial. You'll get the idea. This kind of relates to how a lagger can kill you without leading. Lead isn't just moving your crosshair away from your enemy...it's knowing where they will be. If they don't lead at all, it just means you were in the spot they shot some time ago.

I hope I helped a bit. Experience helps the most...also, it helps a ton to find a comfortable way to aim. I wouldn't try forcing anything you're not comfortable with, but I don't look at my crosshair ever. It feels weird to do that now. I look at where I want to shoot, and I'm used to my mouse's sensitivity to the point where I can just aim where I'm looking, or extremely close to it. This also gives you a bit more awareness and help with movement/map control as you aren't focusing on something on your screen but the bigger picture and your enemies. If you would like to try that, you can give it a shot. It took me about a month ish to fully grasp how to aim that way, but it was totally worth it. Noticed better aim right away.

Good luck Smile

Don't forget, at the end of the day the game is all about having fun !

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PostedMar 29, 2013 12:29 am
^Excellent help!! I will review this everyday! I really appreciate tha amount of detail you took and how well you explained this. This was more like what I needed than just saying "practice" (Cause I do) This is more like a philosophy to Aimin' rather than some Advice

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PostedMar 31, 2013 12:35 am
Hey, I actually played with you in a few games and you mentioned your leading problem. I was playing with revs just like you.

I started using revs for fun in training games but they ended up helping me lead higher pings at the same time. My brother has been downloading a ton of stuff which raised everyone's ping to 100-200. Nothing below 100. You can follow those videos mentioned (I personally find them slightly exaggerated) as a base, but after a bit you'll start to get a "feel" for it and estimate. Try to get the easy hits when a player is stationary for a second, going in a straight line or to an obvious location (HP/AP for example). You can also try to hit the enemy with a sword or dagger while they're moving to kind of gauge how much ahead you should shoot. This works well for 100+ ping.

When the ping is not crazy high, I typically only check the ping of people that are more likely able to kill me so I can try to kill them first. Sometimes I just check the higher pings and note those players when the rest are close together.

I would recommend you keep playing in the training rooms where people are killing each other if you aren't practicing 1 on 1 with someone. Usually you'll end up being with someone who's trying to kill you anyways.
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