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PostedMar 07, 2013 10:18 pm
Most of my thoughts about this topic coincide with what Bankai has already said, with a little disagreements though. I can understand why players are upset that GM/PMs do not update the community with what is planned for GunZ. But don't forget, we bring up all the important issues but experience the same things the rest of the community does. Coincidentally, the first thing I've ever brought up as a GS was the issue of communication between Aeria staff and player community. However, when targeting Aeria most forget a very important thing that plays a big role in limiting their communication with us. And that's the fact the there are few GMs in comparison to the plethora of games they host here. The work that needs to be done is simply spread too thin. I'm not saying this is the sole reason why we are not taken care of and Aeria does not communicate with us well. You can read my monthly responses in the Aeria feedback poles to see how I think things should have been fixed a while ago for that. And again, I'm not taking any sides here. This is a merely an assessment or explanation on Aeria's limited communication with us. In conclusion, this is probably why they will not update the launcher with official news unless new content comes. It would be nice, but not probable. A simple forum post will suffice for news updates on GunZ.
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PostedMar 07, 2013 10:46 pm
Formalitys wrote:
the fact the there are few GMs in comparison to the plethora of games they host here. The work that needs to be done is simply spread too thin.  
yup ~_~ theres like 1 gm for 5 games. and yet theres scarlet blade over there with 6 gms full time

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PostedMar 07, 2013 10:46 pm
@kogi

^Yeah!

On topic: I concur.

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PostedMar 07, 2013 10:50 pm
ijjiBankai wrote:
@kogi

^Yeah!

On topic: I concur.

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Secretly I can post on the forums from ingame Twisted Evil


We need more GMs ;[

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PostedMar 08, 2013 8:33 am

Re: Update GunZ Launcher with Official News

To GMs/GSs. You say things on the forums but not on Launcher. Be our official Liaisons
ijjiBankai wrote:
Okay...well you guys asked for it.
Yeah I never said I disagreed with updating the launcher with some recent news. Maybe leave a separate area for promotions instead of shoving them under news.  


With this repsonse, you are pretty much agreeing with at least half of my thread, and I said further down in my thread that there could be a forum section just for "News" or something, so, not just the launcher, obviously, because the limit space on there, etc.

ijjiBankai wrote:
But you do know about anti-lead. How it works? It's already established on another official gunz server as well as several non-official private servers. Do you want an in-depth technical explanation? We keep repeating time and time again that the GMs know of all the issues that players want to see fixed based on priority. Knowing that, you can bet your gunz account that MAIET already knows about it. As for "everyones feedback", no one disagrees with having lead channels or having it as an option. We just want to avoid splitting the community with a lead server and anti-lead server.  


I know it is already established on private servers, I heard that it was on other official gunz servers, but I was not too sure, just heard it as rumors at the time when I did hear about it that is. And huh? You keep repeating from time to time that the GM's know of all the issues huh? I'm not saying you aren't, I'm saying that instead of doing all this in a form of reply to random player's threads here and there, I believe the best thing could be having a News section in the forum, and when AERIA actually sent the feedback about lead to them and saying they have taken all our thoughts into consideration in that forum section, I could just read it there. Because way back when on the anti lead topc, many players did not know If AERIA was doing anything about it at all, I'm pretty sure you know this because of all the threads about when is Anti lead coming or if AERIA is doing anything about it(sending feedback to MAIET about it at that time).

If there was a section where I could see at that time that they actually sent back some info to them, I would be like oh snap, so they are doing something about it, I wonder when MAIET will do something. Because I can't just assume that AERIA actually sent info to them, at that time at least. (6-8 months ago, just got internet at home again). So yea, I hate to have to search the forums for game sage's replies about Anti lead. I know there are things behind said about it, just would be better if it were under a news section. This is what I been saying in my thread as well.

ijjiBankai wrote:
This doesn't even mean anything. You want news every time Aeria sends something to MAIET? Think about this from Aeria's view please. This would be a downright awful idea from any viewpoint you look at it from.  


Lol? It is not just me that wants this, even you your self said that it would be nice, and if you read some replies in this thread, they want this as well. Ok, well maybe not exactly this, because news everytime AERIA sends something to MAIET? Yea... For the hot topics like Anti lead, if players saw in a news section with aeria saying they have taking all our thoughts into consideration and sent some feedback to MAIET about anti lead, and maybe just putting a new notes on what "feedback" a bit, a little touch up on it.

Im sure players would be astonished if this was done and they would trust AERIA more and enjoy staying here, because I do know for a fact that some of my friends would not have quit if this were done, or that some players would not be thinking of quitting as much. This is like the AE problem, say after 2 weeks of it and heard nothing about it frm gms/gs's, then it would be annoying, but if after those 2 weeks we just go to the news section and see that they are on it and it will be fixed soon, players would be like, oh, cool kk, ill just wait, instead of making many threads about it, there would be less of those. The routine would be to just keep checking that section during that AE problem until we see some news that they are on it or something, and then we'd be like oh snap kk cool. Even if this sounds a bit weird to you and unnesseccary, THIS would really put more drive into players to keep playing and just hold on. Just read the replies to this thread about how players just wanna be kept updated. Even if you think its unnessecary and a waste, players want something like this. But hey, even you said you would like it.

DDaggerDD wrote:
During that time you were waiting, don't you think the GunZ community should know whats going on instead of leaving us in the Dark on hot topics that we bring up? During that waiting time, all I see is complaining and AERIA getting blamed for everything because we just want some news from you guys on how things are going between you and MAIET.  
ijjiBankai wrote:
Same response as above. They've probably sent MAIET a bunch of things that need fixed. They probably don't even know when each fix will be ready, especially when unforseeable bugs or problems can occur, like in the merge.  

Same response as above.

DDaggerDD wrote:
Maybe you GM's think we don't deserve it, BUT seriously, I haven't been QQing about Aeria and Anti lead and annoying you guys and a lot of other players to. Stop leaving us in the Dark  
ijjiBankai wrote:
This sentence doesn't even make sense, but I know what you're trying to say. If you take into consideration everything that I've said, then you're not left in the dark. You're just blinding yourself in the light silly. Metaphor aside, they're working on bringing us up to speed with the other gunz versions as they've stated. The release of Blitzkrieg was step 1 of that process.  


? I'm not saying AERIA is not doing anything about it by contacting MAIET, huh? It goes like this, Issue with GunZ - players waiting on info about it from AERIA - nothing - nothing - nothing - nothing - nothing - ok I guess since its been so long now, we can assume they have sent some info to MAIET already, i cant be positive and near 100% sure, but its been a long time so probably.. but ugh at least keep us informed a bit, we have been waiting through that, people, players. You can bet that if there was a news section that info on things like this would be in, players would just keep checking there and again, there would be less random threads. And Instead of assume that late that AERIA probably sent feedback by then, we would see it earlier and feel relief and also feel like a huge brick load of weight n worries n stress of our heads, IM SURE OF IT! ... wait, you already said it would be nice and implying...

ijjiBankai wrote:
Now I understand what you're saying here...But do you want a mile-long list under the GunZ news section full of bugs and glitches that need to be fixed? I mean, really? Official in-game or launcher-based announcement isn't very different than official word on the forums. Yet you and plenty of other players still make plenty of threads about the same thing.  

What the heck? lol. Read the replies to this thread. Things that affect many GunZ players like the AE problem, nothing was said about it pretty much, maybe there was, but in a random forum thread, and probably by a player. Even if you game sages or game masters said something about it, its most likely to be missed. This is what my thread is also talking about, this, this this. Stop replying in random threads by players, because not everyone would see it, if there were some official section on the forum or something, then that would be good, and maybe say in the Launcher like: News on the AE problem, and put a link to the thread about it which would be in the news section. A section where we could just keep going to, to be updated on things. So yes, it is much different than official word in a reply in on the forums in a random thread by a player. I'm sure most of the GunZ players would agree, even if you don't agree here.

ijjiBankai wrote:
Uhm, you realize game sages are messengers between GMs and players right? I agree that there should have been a quick post made by a GM or GS saying that Aeria is restarting the servers in attempt to fix the AE issue rather than have random players have to find this out randomly on their own and inform others via the shout box. But, you specifically keep asking for news that they are doing something about it, and that's what every GS keeps giving you.  

Yea, you do tell some players, some players, in a random thread, by a player, where not even half of the GunZ players would see, because it is not in any official news section where players would check. It is in a random thread, by a player, you reply, you lock the thread, you say it in the shout box, that doesnt stay there very long. My thread is also saying to stop that non-sense now and it is better to have an official section for this, and tie in the GunZ Launcher some how and aeria ignite, players use this as well, not everyone uses forums or want to dwell in it to find out info. Go read replies, go, you know this is better than what you guys are doing now, even if you do not agree, many do.

ijjiBankai wrote:
I don't understand what kind of "Official" news update you're looking for. You're not looking for deadlines; you want to know they're working on it. You have both of those things already.  

Shout box? Replying in random threads by players that always gets bumped down and i have to dwell the forums to look for them? ok. Im saying news section, better. News section, players agree, news section, players stop harrasing, news section, where players would just keep checkin there.

DDaggerDD wrote:
Give us an official post that you sent all our thoughts and feedback to them, proving you guys are awesome and do care. Like how GMSuperman said for the anti lead topic, but in random Forum Topic.
Superman0X wrote:
Aeria has no say in this. It is all up to the developer.

We have passed on the feedback to them.  
 

ijjiBankai wrote:
Like I said above, we game sages constantly tell players that the GMs are aware of all the issues. Do you want me to make a thread listing the hot issues they know about?  

somethin like that, yes :c . Its not just me though. It would be better if there were just a section where you officials(game sage, game master) post things, instead of in parts of the forum here n there, random replies. So, no, not a thread, a forum section where you guys would post your stuff on hot topics. and the other things that I my thread and this reply brought up.. er yea
ijjiBankai wrote:
I already told you why it's not a very good idea to have an official statement from Aeria every moment they contact MAIET above. Keep in mind though that this doesn't mean I am AGAINST any news update. It'd be nice if an Aeria GM could make a post once in a while with some information in it. We've brought that to their attention as well already.  

indeed.

ijjiBankai wrote:
Randomly throwing out other suggestions into the thread now? This issue is already known.  

nah i was just using that as one of the many threads by players about that topic, if you guys had some official news section, players could just keep checkng there on updates about it. Like how GSformalities made a post saying nows our chance to have some input on how the kick system should be. If this was in some news section, and a link to it on the gunz launcher. Players playing gunz would see that and be like o snap, you guys are pretty cool. Sure some see it on the forums, but im trying to come up with a way more of the gunz population can see all things like this. U are addressing things but its not like many of us see it, and when we do.. its often after a long time because of how you guys are doing it. forum dwelling for content by gamesages/gamemasters.. ._.

ijjiBankai wrote:
Also - does Aeria update the GunZ Launcher with news? Judging by Superman0X's reply, if it was given in regards to this paragraph, then no.  

? What u mean do they? they update it with tiers and i think i remember seeing the GunZ Tourny being advertised on the gunz launcher some way. I think thats how i found out about it(proving that using GunZ launcher or something like that, is a better way to get the attention of MORE of the GunZ Player Population)

ijjiBankai wrote:
-My reply remains the same as I already knew every argument you made. My "skimming" isn't the same as "not reading"  

Your reply isnt the same? o_o. You said you are not agreeing or disagreeing, but you would like it if it could happen. And I never said you are "not reading" k.

ijjiBankai wrote:
Hope this topic doesn't get closed though. No other game sages willing to respond to essay?  

Yea, same, and, lets see.. only time shall tell! gogogo sonic x

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PostedMar 08, 2013 1:24 pm
dayum nearly jipped when i saw that wall'o'text

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PostedMar 08, 2013 9:24 pm
DD, I mean no offense whatsoever, but son you got dropped by wall of text.

Not that I liked doing it though.

Side note should you reply, which is inevitable, your response above not only twisted my words but left out the entire theme of my response that I disagreed with you because it's not feasible / possible.

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PostedMar 08, 2013 9:34 pm
The GMs could do something. Games like Soldier Front, AVA, Scarlet Blade and many others have Gms that post Monthly threads stating how the game is doing and what is coming in the future, those are called Comminity Updates. I would really appreciate it if our GMs would do the same for us here because basically we know nothing about what's going on with anything.

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PostedMar 08, 2013 10:20 pm
Zaebja wrote:
The GMs could do something. Games like Soldier Front, AVA, Scarlet Blade and many others have Gms that post Monthly threads stating how the game is doing and what is coming in the future, those are called Comminity Updates. I would really appreciate it if our GMs would do the same for us here because basically we know nothing about what's going on with anything.  
those words... *sob* i wish they would come through...

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PostedMar 09, 2013 2:04 am

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