Okay...well you guys asked for it.
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Update the GunZ Launcher with News that the community wants. Take the Anti Lead for example, everyone will keep blaming Aeria, WE DONT KNOW ANYTHIN ABOUT THAT! How it works, etc. Make an official post on the Launcher saying you have taken everyones feedback into consideration and sent it to MAIET.
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Yeah I never said I disagreed with updating the launcher with some recent news. Maybe leave a separate area for promotions instead of shoving them under news. But you do know about anti-lead. How it works? It's already established on another official gunz server as well as several non-official private servers. Do you want an in-depth technical explanation? We keep repeating time and time again that the GMs know of all the issues that players want to see fixed based on priority. Knowing that, you can bet your gunz account that MAIET already knows about it. As for "everyones feedback", no one disagrees with having lead channels or having it as an option. We just want to avoid splitting the community with a lead server and anti-lead server.
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For this situation, how GunZ is set up between Aeria and MAIET, you guys send feedback and information to them, ok. When you do this, you know this is for the GunZ community, you cannot say we are going to get an update from them for sure at the time you send the feedback, however, you can send us some OFFICIAL news that you have sent them some feedback, so we can all join together and hope that it will work! We're all a team!
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This doesn't even mean anything. You want news every time Aeria sends something to MAIET? Think about this from Aeria's view please. This would be a downright awful idea from any viewpoint you look at it from.
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Because right now, you send information to them, we wouldn't know whats going on, we wait and wait and wait then randomly MAIET gives you information on it and news then thats when you send us some random information in a random forum topic as a reply. During that time you were waiting, don't you think the GunZ community should know whats going on instead of leaving us in the Dark on hot topics that we bring up? During that waiting time, all I see is complaining and AERIA getting blamed for everything because we just want some news from you guys on how things are going between you and MAIET.
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Same response as above. They've probably sent MAIET a bunch of things that need fixed. They probably don't even know when each fix will be ready, especially when unforseeable bugs or problems can occur, like in the merge.
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Maybe you GM's think we don't deserve it, BUT seriously, I haven't been QQing about Aeria and Anti lead and annoying you guys and a lot of other players to. Stop leaving us in the Dark
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This sentence doesn't even make sense, but I know what you're trying to say. If you take into consideration everything that I've said, then you're not left in the dark. You're just blinding yourself in the light silly. Metaphor aside, they're working on bringing us up to speed with the other gunz versions as they've stated. The release of Blitzkrieg was step 1 of that process.
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I play Company of Heroes as well and we had crashing issues, they released official news on the MAIN website and in the in Game Lobby news section saying the realize the new crashing bug and are on the job trying their best to fix it. Even if it takes a month after saying that, at least I would know they are trying their best and I should't keep bugging Aeria on the forums about it. I would't have to because I can just check the NEWS for OFFICIAL INFO ON THE HOT TOPIC.
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Now I understand what you're saying here...But do you want a mile-long list under the GunZ news section full of bugs and glitches that need to be fixed? I mean, really? Official in-game or launcher-based announcement isn't very different than official word on the forums. Yet you and plenty of other players still make plenty of threads about the same thing. And on the topic of a non-Aeria game, some games have resources that GunZ doesn't. Look, we can all assume that GunZ isn't making a ton of money as it isn't even well-established since the merge, items are missing, etc. But then you have to factor in other things on top of that. It's just a long process.
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But c'mon, smaller things count too! Please don't just do nothing after this post =/. I the GunZ Launcher and all i see in the News are new Tiers for you guys to get money. Tiers sound fun and all but, Cmon, some news on updates on the status of GunZ Bugs, or that you are doing something about it (to the best of your abilities) would be nice too. Is it that you aren't doing anything or just not trying your best on some issues? Ugh, all you are doing is leaving room for assumption towards AERIA, you can't blame us if you don't address things like the AE officially for almost all the GunZ community to see (Not on the **** forums in random posts on random topics by PLAYERS). Please, ok? Sorry for everything blah blah if you think we aren't worth it IDK why we are left in the DARK, etc etc.
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Uhm, you realize game sages are messengers between GMs and players right? I agree that there should have been a quick post made by a GM or GS saying that Aeria is restarting the servers in attempt to fix the AE issue rather than have random players have to find this out randomly on their own and inform others via the shout box. But, you specifically keep asking for news that they are doing something about it, and that's what every GS keeps giving you. On a similar note, the assumptions that players make about Aeria are just due to frustration because issues such as the item mall, website, etc should not be taking this long. Same story with updates. They're "working on it", and that's all we game sages know too. I don't understand what kind of "Official" news update you're looking for. You're not looking for deadlines; you want to know they're working on it. You have both of those things already.
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Give us an official post that you sent all our thoughts and feedback to them, proving you guys are awesome and do care. Like how GMSuperman said for the anti lead topic, but in random Forum Topic.
Superman0X wrote: |
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Aeria has no say in this. It is all up to the developer.
We have passed on the feedback to them.
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Like I said above, we game sages constantly tell players that the GMs are aware of all the issues. Do you want me to make a thread listing the hot issues they know about? I already told you why it's not a very good idea to have an official statement from Aeria every moment they contact MAIET above. Keep in mind though that this doesn't mean I am AGAINST any news update. It'd be nice if an Aeria GM could make a post once in a while with some information in it. We've brought that to their attention as well already.
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I'm sorry if this all sounded really rude but I'm not alone with my thoughts and i couldn't hold back to tell you the opinion of myself and many many others playing with me nearly every day. Please give us the old voting system back. This thing doesn't work at all. No1 knows how to kick anymore. And when they finally figured they just get messages like "Cannot start the vote" even if they just wanted to AGREE... Only option is to set permanent vote possibilities. So everybody is permanently able to vote.. that's the only way it could work. But even that wouldn't be nearly as easy as it used to be.
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Randomly throwing out other suggestions into the thread now? This issue is already known. But on this off-topic topic, in my opinion the best thing to do would be to change it back to the old kick system. Have it so the message displays at the bottom again rather than in the chat, so players instantly are aware of a kick (and they won't have less than 10 seconds to vote). Possibly make that chat in green, but the dull white was fine. Kicks regenerate every 5 minutes once used; they work even if a player logs off - ideally as long as the room stays open. Just my 2 cents.
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Recent post by GMSplitKicks:
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With all bugs that are submitted, the GM Staff will go through the information, to test and verify further document each issue.
Once the bug has been documented, the information is then forwarded to the Game Developer. Please note that it is up to the discretion of the Game Developer to make any corrections as they determine best, along with the priority in correcting these issues.
Aeria Games does not make any changes to games. This is done soly at the discretion of the developer. We provide reports, feedback and suggestions based the information that you, our customers provide. We act as the messengers between the game community and the Game Developers.
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Yeah this just confirms what I said above. Aeria hands huge essays to MAIET. MAIET gives fixes back in random order to best benefit Aeria and GunZ.
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In conclusion, put the news on the Launcher to good use and not just to update when you get new Tiers that deal with the item shop. Stop leaving us in the dark on topics that you cannot solve yourself but you must contact MAIET. Stop leaving us to wait during that period for MAIET to reply, tell us that you have actually sent them some information, sent them all our hopes n dreams towards this game, we have so many ideas which are not even address upon by AERIA, but when they are, it is in random forum posts by players.
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Not possible. Also - does Aeria update the GunZ Launcher with news? Judging by Superman0X's reply, if it was given in regards to this paragraph, then no. Your complaint then lies with MAIET. And if they do, well then they don't even know what patch is next until it's close I imagine. Quite a difficult situation.
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False, it's not about "I WANT A DEADLINE" at all, only responding to this comment because as gamesage, people will just read your comment and think its right. You have it all wrong my friend. Read the post. Your reply is so wrong and off topic and you are a game sage, I just had to respond. The thread's length is like that on purpose ofcourse. Also, I knew only people serious enough and mature enough would read the whole thing. So getting comments like this never bothered me until now, since one of them is from a game sage.
Obviously if you read the whole beginning then made it to the list of quotes, you would realize that you wouldn't need to read the quotes section as they are just proving a point I was stating. Also if you did read the whole thing and the conclusion, your reply would be different than what it is now, this is why I do not reply to people that have not read enough as well.
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-Your own post was off-topic from your own topic
-You have random, old, and off-topic quotes
-My reply remains the same as I already knew every argument you made. My "skimming" isn't the same as "not reading"
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False again, saying if I took the time to read your response on how the process works, then this wouldn't have been made. I did read your response, and this is also about exactly how it all works and how we, the community believe how we should be included in it. Are you sersiously acting like this now? Your telling me "if I took the time to read" and then replying to My thread and even stating you just skimmed over? Haha. <3
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You didn't read my one paragraph that shuts down your entire thread. I'll quote it for you.
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Yeah it's MAIET that has to make the update. Aeria's PM gets in contact w/ the Developers over at MAIET, tells them what kind of patches we want, they work out the deal/paper work/whatever, make one, give it to a QA? team who will check it for bugs/glitches/etc that could mess the game up, send it back to the coders, repeat till patch is good, devs send it to Aeria via PM?, Aeria then implements it onto their servers, they check to see if any new issues come up due to the patch, accept/reject the patch based on what they requested and decide if they will upload it to the main servers.
Just a summary of how I think it works...off the top of my head.
And yes that is one huge run-on filled with comma splices! Enjoy
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Just add in the fact that MAIET prioritizes the patches in the order they choose, as Splitkicks informed you, and you have your answer.
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That is what you are implying with this reply of yours.
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-No my reply implies that I saw your entire argument and thought that it was silly to destroy the huge post, needlessly quoting things to get around one simple fact, which is how MAIET and Aeria communicate. But that's what it came down to!
Hope this topic doesn't get closed though. No other game sages willing to respond to essay?
