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andymauler

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PostedFeb 17, 2013 6:00 pm
You can't make this game better

The only way this game can get better is if MORE PEOPLE PLAY, which means the economy will boost and weapons, gears, and items will be cheaper because they will be higher in stock.

This game was the same as it was back during the 1st scenario. The only difference is the player composition and population.



But yet people continue spending AP on this dead game lol. Just stop buying AP and sooner or later Aeria is gonna realize something's wrong
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CATGUN90

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PostedFeb 17, 2013 8:09 pm
Game_Rage wrote:
andymauler wrote:
You can't make this game better

The only way this game can get better is if MORE PEOPLE PLAY, which means the economy will boost and weapons, gears, and items will be cheaper because they will be higher in stock.

This game was the same as it was back during the 1st scenario. The only difference is the player composition and population.



But yet people continue spending AP on this dead game lol. Just stop buying AP and sooner or later Aeria is gonna realize something's wrong  

Or... this happens :
GMPaladin wrote:
Scenario 2: Numbers go down - Buy rights to another game and begin process of releasing it (either channeled or client). Look for other ways to grow company revenue and which areas can be improved. Potentially drop game if no one is playing and no money is coming in at all. Actually FIRING staff is very rare and has never been tied to the success of a single game.  

I have seen games from Aeria be dropped when either one was the occasion but never when both were met with this issue. Usually it was the lack of revenue being raked in . Again AGE doesn't give two rats a** if you stop spending money. In the end they have a solution for that issue as well.  


Strangely enough other Aeria game that has very large playerbase and make much more revenue than Dwo die and some didn;t event last more than 1 year like kitsu saga,Metal Saga,Repulse so there could be something else that might influence the shutdown of a game.

BestOfAllNoobs

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PostedFeb 17, 2013 8:26 pm
CATGUN90 wrote:
Game_Rage wrote:
andymauler wrote:
You can't make this game better

The only way this game can get better is if MORE PEOPLE PLAY, which means the economy will boost and weapons, gears, and items will be cheaper because they will be higher in stock.

This game was the same as it was back during the 1st scenario. The only difference is the player composition and population.



But yet people continue spending AP on this dead game lol. Just stop buying AP and sooner or later Aeria is gonna realize something's wrong  

Or... this happens :
GMPaladin wrote:
Scenario 2: Numbers go down - Buy rights to another game and begin process of releasing it (either channeled or client). Look for other ways to grow company revenue and which areas can be improved. Potentially drop game if no one is playing and no money is coming in at all. Actually FIRING staff is very rare and has never been tied to the success of a single game.  

I have seen games from Aeria be dropped when either one was the occasion but never when both were met with this issue. Usually it was the lack of revenue being raked in . Again AGE doesn't give two rats a** if you stop spending money. In the end they have a solution for that issue as well.  


Strangely enough other Aeria game that has very large playerbase and make much more revenue than Dwo die and some didn;t event last more than 1 year like kitsu saga,Metal Saga,Repulse so there could be something else that might influence the shutdown of a game.  
contract maybe

noordin_ngentot

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PostedFeb 17, 2013 11:38 pm
But Catgun, how do you know for sure that other Aeria games that has closed down make much more revenue than DWO?

Could be DWO players spend more AP, despite the small playerbase.

SilversoulGS

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PostedFeb 17, 2013 11:48 pm
noordin_ngentot wrote:
But Catgun, how do you know for sure that other Aeria games that has closed down make much more revenue than DWO?

Could be DWO players spend more AP, despite the small playerbase.  


Possibly, remember those 63 A Blade users who got all = stats? That's not even including people who choose other weapons or spent AP but didn't fill out the form.

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noordin_ngentot

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PostedFeb 17, 2013 11:55 pm
Well, I honestly never checked the promotion for other games, but yeah, weapon promotion in DWO like the last Apex Blade is probably one of the reason why DWO survived so far.

Release new weapon => weapon promotion in that weekend => 7k-8k AP bonus tier => high profit (500k AP minimum prob?).

And there's always reason to use AP on daily basis like Kizuna said; weapon modding, grinding, element, blue bars, etc. Maybe even repair when you run out of ores and gems.

JPrisby

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PostedFeb 21, 2013 2:35 pm
I do so hope to reune with you lot soon.

VentusOnii

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PostedFeb 21, 2013 3:05 pm
Yurisaki wrote:
noordin_ngentot wrote:
New GM is useless.
Should be obvious after 2 years that whenever we get new GM, none of them are better or worse than previous GM.

New GS probably the same too.
After 2 years cycling many GS, you would think there would be one that can improve Aeria's standard of DWO for the better. If Pan couldn't do it after so far, doubt any random new GS can.

Ban is pretty much never permanent on DWO. There's no secret about it at this point, you probably just need to write how much AP you had spend, and how much AP you are going to spend in your ban appeal. It's more about the company policy than having GM/GS on the job in this case (botting / altfarm / forcelag / whatever).

Overall.....

UhhWTF wrote:
I can fix this game in 1 suggestion
Give this game to a better publishing company  


^This is probably the best suggestion to 'fix' the game.

But of course, KOEI and Aeria seem to enjoy their partnership for the past 2 years, so not likely to happen I think.  


The problem is GM/PM have little control over most things..
Granted Vert can request content from Koei but they have to justify it to Koei.
And Koei seem to be set on how they release content.

The crash/lag bug is so far broken it requires a clean install of the server... (idk y they don't do it however)

Advertising is down to a different Aeria Department
The main site also a different department.

Only things i'm sure GMs control and honestly need to improve on are

Events in game and out
Payouts .. Yes the codes are complicated.. but we made them a tool.. so idk how they are messing it up
SD,CP,SM it's not hard to set these up so no idea why it keeps going so wrong.. must be an input area that is conflicting with the automated system

I can't go into detail on somethings.. but Aeria do need to take more care of this game..

If I ever get a chance to have a long chat with Vert, I will!

I currently have a few complaints that are slowly being escalated through the company. So I will also continue there and see where it leads.

did I miss anything?

PM me if you have a serious issue you would like brought to Verts attention.  

I love you yuri, your the mother of this community <3

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