You're just looking for someone to argue with for the sake of arguing. Lemme make this simple. Approximately 70% loss of players who *were* interested in combat type scenarios vs an approx 5-10% influx of new players who are isn't gonna resolve the issue very fast. Can't force people into a type of gameplay they have 0 interest in. Furthermore, I suggested migrating one of the larger Kingdoms from Titans as being a good viable solution. Honestly, I think importing one Kingdom instead of the entire contents of a server would be a decent solution. It would free up some of Titans' woes and give more "breathing room", while providing Apoc with some new entertainment.