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PostedFeb 10, 2013 6:55 am

Heavy criticism on the Game Sage program

Some rage that needed to be vented after 2 years.
First of all I'm going to say this as a disclaimer: I do respect the Game Sages, but the program itself I do not. It's heavily flawed.
Second disclaimer: This is all from a player's perspective, and no names will be mentioned.

 
Part 1: Biased outcomes of applications.
By now it's no surprise that Game Sage applications are incredibly biased.
The major factors of biased in applications:
1. Does the current Game Sage team like you?
YES, the Game Sage team of the game you're applying at does affect your outcome of being a game sage. If the team loves you, you're already 1/3 of the way there. If not, you're set back on your chances greatly.

2. Do the GMs like you?
The biggest factor, do the GMs like you. They can simply turn you down because they don't like you, or simply because they can.

3. How helpful are you really?
I've seen so many people getting turned down from being a Game Sage, despite them being the most active and helpful person in the entire section of the Aeria Games community. For what reasons I have no clue, but it's happened.

Specifically speaking towards Eden Eternal at this one. I've seen so many Game Sage applications being approved for people who have rarely helped people, or those who have only helped when they apply. This is horrendously stupid on choices for a Game Sage, but it is the truth.
 



 
Part 2: "Super secret Game Sage facts!"
No I won't be revealing what I know about the Game Sage program, because I don't want any of my accounts suspended, and I know this thread itself can get them suspended. But this needs to be vented.

1. Game Sages get free junk from Aeria to be better at the games they play.
This is the most painfully obvious secret of being a Game Sage that mostly EVERYONE knows, despite GMs not wanting players to know. However I can confidently confirm this thanks to one of Superman0X's post. And if a GM is going to suspend my account for something a GM revealed ages ago, then just wow, way to be a good GM for suspending an account for something a GM revealed..

SuperMan0X wrote:
We give them a little AP, so that when they do play, they can get better results. We even have them showcase new costumes and such, so that they look cool.  

Source thread: http://www.aeriagames.com/forums/en/viewtopic.php?p=3839967#3839967
I won't expand upon any other secrets.  





 
Part 3: Loose lipped Game Sages
I cannot even begin to describe how many secrets were leaked to me by Game Sages. In fact, this is how I know so much about the Game Sage program. And honestly isn't a part of being a Game Sage CONFIDENTIALITY? Well time to toss out 3/4 of the Games Sages at Aeria, cause god knows how terrible they are at keeping things confidential. However, as much as I want to report the ones that I know personally that don't keep the secrets, I can't due to them being leaked on third party chat programs.
 
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djodjo57

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PostedFeb 10, 2013 7:44 am
+1 with the part 1
a lot of player could be awesome as GS but because of some GS they will never be gs
and i really dont like that ...


for 2/ who cares ? x.x
they got a little gift because they spend some time to help the players, i dont see anything wrong with that
(for the gs that really do something for the community, im not talking about the invisible gs)

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PostedFeb 10, 2013 7:50 am
My point on number two is how something so stupid needs to be kept secret.

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PostedFeb 10, 2013 11:51 am
Couldn't agree more, great rant.

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PostedFeb 10, 2013 12:24 pm
This program has been around since forever, we've always known GS get AP for their services to be sightly above average against players. Once before was told by a GS they receive certain amount of AP. I've applied several times for several games I was knowledgeable Twelve Sky, Twelve Sky 2, and Last Chaos would think I'd be pick once for either time but nope.

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PostedFeb 10, 2013 12:52 pm
Well I don't know much about your game communities and the atmosphere around them.But I can tell you that the DKO team is not like that. We applied because we had a passion/dedication for that game.
GM Liking you?
Although I can't say much on this but I can tell you from my experience. I usually play FPS games. (Wolfteam/Repulse,when it was around/AVA) Those are the games that I usually play. But when I saw that Aeria will be publishing DKO I thought of looking into it. Yes I was new to this and trying it out was one of the things I was looking forward to. When CB ended the GS apps went up. I had no idea who those GM's were. Just guys with tags is what I was assuming. But than I guess the GM's must have liked me or something I was selected to be part of the team.
Confidentiality?
Like before other games might be compromised.But I can assure you that DKO is not one of those games. If you think there are certain GS's acting out of line send in a ticket to Billing and they will redirect it to the proper eyes,for the matter to be looked into.
Not more that I can say.

Try DKO out!

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PostedFeb 10, 2013 1:22 pm
GS feedback to billing?


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PostedFeb 10, 2013 1:25 pm
Before i start, i would like to state I was a GS, i know what happens and i can also tell you sir, that you are completely and utterly wrong.

Part 1 How helpful are you?

H3ll i am helpful around the forums, on occasion.. but i would make a terrible GS now, im opinionated, arrogant and can get into strongly worded disagreements, all of these things are giant NO's in the GS team, so saying 'helpful people don't get in' proves you have done little to no research. You can be helpful, but you can also be unsuitable.

"Does the GS and GM team like you?" Translation = "Have you or have you not been an arse to people" Dude seriously I'm one of Aeria's strongest critics and even i can see that you are basing a lot of this on speculation and have done little actual research. If you are a decent player and candidate and stay out of trouble then of course you are more likely to be accepted, it has nothing to do with who likes you.

This is complete BS, GS's only free items are event items that they are forbidden to use. I was a GS, so don't call me on bullcrap either, I'm not fan of the program either after what it has become but most of what you have said here is complete BS.

Part 2

Supermans little secret? GS's have to do a VERY LONG and VERY TIME CONSUMING report of all the work they have done all the events they have done complete with times dates and SS evidence each month, compiling it all onto a word document and a separate report for all forum help they have done, and the AP they get is nowhere near worth the crap they need to put up with. I know. I did it myself. In the end i stopped doing the reports and decided not to get the AP, just did GSing on its own. I didn't care about the AP and the report took up time i did not have.

Part 3

Yea and this is a failure in the program nowdays, they should be banned imo, its probably the only part i can agree with. But this will be a risk no matter what, that's human beings for you. They shouldn't leak stuff, but they do.

- Courtesy of the Great Avyn

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PostedFeb 10, 2013 1:53 pm
Killa_1112 wrote:
Before i start, i would like to state I was a GS, i know what happens and i can also tell you sir, that you are completely and utterly wrong.

Part 1 How helpful are you?

H3ll i am helpful around the forums, but i would make a terrible GS now, im opinionated, arrogant and can get into strongly worded disagreements, all of these things are giant NO's in the GS team, so saying 'helpful people don't get in' proves you have done little to no research.  


Only being helpful doesn't get you there. You can't be a total arse and expect to be tagged, but I would take a blunt knowledgeable person over a person with lack of knowledge that sugar-coats their every word. From personal experience, the GM team on GF prefers the later one, even if their knowledge about the game is highly questionable. Sometimes it seems like they just put all the names into a hat, mix it around a bit, and have some fun picking up random notes to choose the new GS applicants.

Killa_1112 wrote:
Part 2

"Does the GS and GM team like you?" Translation = "Have you or have you not been an arse to people" Dude seriously I'm one of Aeria's strongest critics and even i can see that you are basing a lot of this on speculation and have done little actual research. If you are a decent player and candidate and stay out of trouble then of course you are more likely to be accepted, it has nothing to do with who likes you.  


It has a lot to do with who likes you. The official response is that the GSes are "just like normal players," but there have been cases of power abuse before, that clearly proves they're not just normal players in some cases. I remember a highly qualified person that applied for several months without getting accepted into the program. After one of the GSes on the team at that time stepped down, he got accepted the next application round. The tension between these two people was no secret, and it was obvious why he didn't get accepted into the program before.

You don't need to be an arse to make a GS not fancy you, and depending on how professional the GM is in their work, you don't need to be an arse to make a GM dislike you either. I got into a few slightly heated discussions with a GS before, and got my account conveniently suspended for suspicious actions.

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PostedFeb 10, 2013 2:11 pm
I honestly think this rant sums up the way Aeria has gone over the past 12 months, at least.

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