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misfisto

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PostedNov 25, 2012 2:05 pm
why are soc so worried that 1 class is good vs them with 10k eva they godlike against most classes seams they dont like competion? soc really sould have less eva than rogues since rogues dex based .most mmos rogues more eva than mag classes so if they nerf focus then nerf soc eva cut it in half then Smile
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PostedNov 25, 2012 9:29 pm
misfisto wrote:
why are soc so worried that 1 class is good vs them with 10k eva they godlike against most classes seams they dont like competion? soc really sould have less eva than rogues since rogues dex based .most mmos rogues more eva than mag classes so if they nerf focus then nerf soc eva cut it in half then Smile  


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PostedNov 26, 2012 7:16 am

Re: evasion working?

ledddawe wrote:
lol does eva works on all classes different ?  
Yes all classes are different, so better test it all on ur character's build.

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YoMoMoY

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PostedNov 26, 2012 9:06 am
wolf181 wrote:
YoMoMoY wrote:
sorc with 10.6k dies in the second skill and is one hit.... Eva is just a joke these days...  
not all sorcs are useless like your sorc :p for exemple on V alex rock...so  


Maturity talking ehh... sorry I cant afford +25 set or better. Eva isnt an advantage anymore at least we get good skills. and our stronger skill is a third part of dl, tb, or NS skill...

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PostedNov 26, 2012 11:43 am
YoMoMoY wrote:
wolf181 wrote:
YoMoMoY wrote:
sorc with 10.6k dies in the second skill and is one hit.... Eva is just a joke these days...  
not all sorcs are useless like your sorc :p for exemple on V alex rock...so  


Maturity talking ehh... sorry I cant afford +25 set or better. Eva isnt an advantage anymore at least we get good skills. and our stronger skill is a third part of dl, tb, or NS skill...  


Evasion is a great advantage in PvP from my experience. I am a Wiz that isn't thought of having great evasion. But it's possible to actually tank good rogues at the top end of the game with good evasion. All I use is +15 Eva set+weapon, lvl 5 jewels, and/or sometimes owl pills+avoidance.

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PostedNov 26, 2012 2:56 pm
WhiteFlame93 wrote:
YoMoMoY wrote:
wolf181 wrote:
YoMoMoY wrote:
sorc with 10.6k dies in the second skill and is one hit.... Eva is just a joke these days...  
not all sorcs are useless like your sorc :p for exemple on V alex rock...so  


Maturity talking ehh... sorry I cant afford +25 set or better. Eva isnt an advantage anymore at least we get good skills. and our stronger skill is a third part of dl, tb, or NS skill...  


Evasion is a great advantage in PvP from my experience. I am a Wiz that isn't thought of having great evasion. But it's possible to actually tank good rogues at the top end of the game with good evasion. All I use is +15 Eva set+weapon, lvl 5 jewels, and/or sometimes owl pills+avoidance.  


You are right, but it doesnt work as it should do ingame. I used to be a tank before some patches came in game like 1 or 2 years ago , dont remember...

A lot of things must be fixed. Rogues with les phy eva than me have better results... lame

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WhiteFlame93

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PostedNov 26, 2012 3:06 pm
I do agree PvP can be quite random. It won't ever be fixed though, too complex and it would be easier to re-do the whole game.

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PostedNov 27, 2012 4:46 am
i am a 171 NS and i rember testing my skills with both YoY (sorc) and Helmer (rogue) both 17X and YoY with full eva i hit him on the first or second try. while helmer with his full eva i used over 8 judgment to land on him...... yes i need more hr, was never a pvp player so my 93x2's seem to make me happy for the few times i did but tht being so the low amount of mag hr i have i still hit YoY much faster with less skill's used then i did on helmer. i do not see eva really having any effect in pvp unless you are a rogue.
(testing done over 2 months ago)

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WhiteFlame93

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PostedNov 27, 2012 4:50 am
devilsSin wrote:
i am a 171 NS and i rember testing my skills with both YoY (sorc) and Helmer (rogue) both 17X and YoY with full eva i hit him on the first or second try. while helmer with his full eva i used over 8 judgment to land on him...... yes i need more hr, was never a pvp player so my 93x2's seem to make me happy for the few times i did but tht being so the low amount of mag hr i have i still hit YoY much faster with less skill's used then i did on helmer. i do not see eva really having any effect in pvp unless you are a rogue.
(testing done over 2 months ago)  


Did Helmer use Kolincha buff and the 170-172 Eva set buff? That gives rogues tonnes of magic evasion.. Im sure you would of seen a difference with those buffs xD

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PostedNov 27, 2012 5:00 am
WhiteFlame93 wrote:
devilsSin wrote:
i am a 171 NS and i rember testing my skills with both YoY (sorc) and Helmer (rogue) both 17X and YoY with full eva i hit him on the first or second try. while helmer with his full eva i used over 8 judgment to land on him...... yes i need more hr, was never a pvp player so my 93x2's seem to make me happy for the few times i did but tht being so the low amount of mag hr i have i still hit YoY much faster with less skill's used then i did on helmer. i do not see eva really having any effect in pvp unless you are a rogue.
(testing done over 2 months ago)  


Did Helmer use Kolincha buff and the 170-172 Eva set buff? That gives rogues tonnes of magic evasion.. Im sure you would of seen a difference with those buffs xD  


tryed kinda both ways. one he used just the eva set and took like 8 skills but when he used the buff lets just say i wana hold my pride and not say how many skills i used

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