Hi!

Just a small observation from me if I can...
Getting some high level masterstones from tiered events is nice but it's been a long time that no low level MS (I mean from +17 to +21) are proposed.

The consequence is that many people are currently stuck with their upgrades because no low lv masterstones are available in game (from player sales or tiered)... even if it's possible, it's a bit stupid to use some high level one to reach +17...

Yea, what he said. Just short of putting a price tag on them and selling them, I thought the way the loot forge with master stones was set up was a pretty good deal.

This is a logical suggestion
+1

Try this
http://www.aeriagames.com/forums/en/viewtopic.php?p=14695531#14695531

That is also a good idea Andy, but would still like to see them just put on sale like any other normal item. I do agree though they need to be obtainable through game play.

Try this, instead:

+17 and +19 for bosses like:
Death Knight, GRD, Kami, Barren, Darkmind, Erratic, GGD, Ilude, Darkmind Terrain, Stray Dragons, Tion & Nathan, Croythe, Oranthes, Botis & Fluton.

+21 and +23 for bosses like:
Gen, Karr, all three Conoctances, both Master of Fanatics, Ghusgo, Meque, Colinca, both Regens, Basula, Toffse, Joshe, the big monkey, all three door guards for Compra and Compra and his 4 monkeys aswell, Hackboss, all three Norg brothers and Ramslo.

I would like a set-up like that very much. Would also give lower leveled players the chance to get rich instantly. Imagine being level 55 something and dropping a +19 which you can sell to a stingy level 160 player that has billions.

+25 through +28 MS can remain "novelty" items only acquired through AP sales. I'm fine with that. Elite players van still get their pro gear and pay heavily for them. Not everyone needs +28 gear, anyways. And MS all the way through +23 being dropable would mean the economy scales will get tipped a bit in favour of the non AP buying players, yet there would still be a run on +25-28s by AP buyers which would be gotten through tiers like they are now. :]

I don't think that higher levels camping spots would be a problem, especially if MSes wouldn't be dropable if the mobs are blue.

I think this would work very well, actually.

Long, long, looooooong overdue.

Kind regards,

Occnaab.
[Bridging the gap between AP-buyers and non AP-buyers since 2008.<3]

I would like more than anything to see master stones in boss drops.

However conditions would be enforced

.boss would get a power boost (cool, party play)
.drop chance would be lowered (cool no farming)
.players would feel forced to buy (microtrans101)
.system would become more fair
.sales would actually increase (convenience to buy rather than forced)
.non spenders would be more encouraged to continue laying because they dont feel hopeless
.players would return because game has become more fair, thusly increasing previous points

The only problem with making the bosses more powerful to make people party is... people dont want to party to get rares. What if killing a super strong darkmind terrain only drops a master stone 1 out of every 20 times it is killed, then somebody else gets the master stone. That sucks, look at how well Akan went over nobody plays that place anymore.

Another thing that killed party play in my opinion is they took away the effectiveness of our CHARACTER SKILLS and gave us pots and scrolls. While I admit I do like my keron scrolls, I do not like the fact that my lvl 133 sin can not land a snare on pretty much any boss in the game, even if I had lvl 25 encourage from a RK who is gonna miss the same said boss with his stun. Sorta kills the idea of forcing partys eh?

What needs to be done is the devs and Gm's need to be forced to sit down and do a good ol fashon 2008 style demon party so they can get the gist of what character skills and party play mean. Thier solution now is to just try and give a boss monster 5 million more HP and make it un stunable. While at the same time making the thing kill you if it gets one hit in.

I agree with Dark Marty's idea 100% well written sir.

Just saying you will not get master stones in a monster if it is farmable and easy to kill....it won't happen. The difficultly of obtainment has to be congruent to the value of the item being obtained, especially if you want to convince something from the webmall to be put directly into game.


*shrugs* suggest something

I understand what you're trying to say, Andy. And I never said it should be easy. But please consider this:

Compra (supposedly) drops MS, right? [Never seen it happen, but rumour has it that he does.]
Well.... Compra with a +28 and Keron takes about as long to solo with a +28 as Darkmind would with a +15. Maybe a bit longer, but not by much.

@DAVE The party killing and who gets the drop is easily fixed by setting the drops to Random, so that everyone participating in the kill would get an equal chance. The system decides.

So I remain with my suggestion. Make MS droppable to all those bosses, aslong as the damage is done for more than 95% by players to whom the mobs are red, yellow, white or green.

So many people are disgruntled with drophunting nowadays, so that would definitely be a good motivator for people to enjoy drophunting again. Across all levels.