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Siviard

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PostedNov 27, 2012 10:23 pm

Re: my problem is with the "joke"

i did expect an official statement to not be just a humorous insult to myself
dresdoe wrote:
I am only still interested in this game because I know that the OP is just one guy and he probably has absolutely nothing to do with the people actually working hard to get this game released to us here in the western hemisphere.  

I feel bad for having to burst your bubble, but Tactics (the OP) is the PM (Product Manager) for Scarlet Blade. So yeah, he actually has a lot to do with the game being localized. I wouldn't take it too hard though as he and Venom like to do silly things like this and other things for fun and get the community to laugh. I remember one time in the Kitsu Saga CB where Venom summoned a bunch of high level boss monsters that pulverized everyone in the starting cities, good times.

Granted, I will admit that after I finished laughing, I found it to be annoying with no official image release, but we'll probably not see anything until we get closer to CB. After all, they've got a ton of localization to do so things like posting final images are probably on low priority. It's to be expected that they'll post something and act for feedback on it before they launch CB, but it won't happen until CB becomes closer to actually being released.
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FruutelIa

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PostedNov 28, 2012 12:09 am
dresdoe wrote:
I am only still interested in this game because I know that the OP is just one guy and he probably has absolutely nothing to do with the people actually working hard to get this game released to us here in the western hemisphere.  

You should be happy that you have staff with a sense of humor... and do a little research before you make your statements.

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PostedNov 28, 2012 1:13 am

I'm ready lol

I'm never scared or butthurt
I like to feed the trolls poop when i can so they feel sick to their stomach and wanna go home

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PostedNov 28, 2012 1:30 am
036286375 wrote:
If you have pictures of a 13 year old girl nude, that's considered child pornography.

They do NOT have to be doing any sexual activities.

The Sentinel class looks like a child, and even if there weren't any laws about it, MANY people would be really uncomfortable if they see a nude child in a game like this.

There are many games that have been censored due to this.  



You know it's funny how people suddenly assume with what happened with Tera Online that every single game has to be censored, including any art-form or product. This is not the case and can be (and has been) proven a variety of times ranging with different products and artists under licensing companies in North America. Even titles like "In the Night Kitchen", "Blundering Angel Dokuru-Chan", Vampire Bund, Chobits, ect.

What censoring stems from is a misunderstanding and fear of the entertainment culture and expression around video-games and artwork. I've met with asian people and spoken with them, some of them have become my good friends. It's pretty normal that they have commercials or female-singing groups that have cute, flashy outfits in them as part of the pop-culture, or food being cutesiefied. And there is nothing wrong with how their entertainment is, as it is just a form of entertainment and expression and nothing more. Unfortunately the gaming stigma on 'mainstream gaming' NA seems less of a "melting pot"(i've seen more variety in a bookstore quiet honestly) and less diverse than anything else. I've seen some players(and non-players) really go out the way to almost in a sense condemn those who either

1) Are Asian(Phil Fish anyone?)
2) Like asian-type games or entertainment

Most of the time these types don't even have a clue(or don't care) what the culture or fandom is when they do this. None of them really watch anime at all, or assume that everything is terrible or video-games are connected to real-life based on their own religious standards. Or that fans are devils because they uh, play video-games and watch animated shows that they don't, therefore they must be some sort of vile creeps. Which is not true (consider Ryan Matheson, a pretty normal guy and geek who just likes anime entertainment as a hobby and a fan, and stood up for it too).

Basically there's two ways companies do stuff generally:

1) Companies that stick to their guns of their product
2) Others that make changes/censor


While I can see how some companies want to stay more on the mainstream-'acceptance' side of what gaming is standardized 'to be' and nothing else,it is ironic that SevenCore Online is uncensored(Amani Race) and has the same pixel clothes that got censored on Tera (Elins) and Scarlet Blade (Sentile). Now how is it possible that SevenCore Online, a game already released in english in North America can have uncensored succubus outfits with garter-belts, but all these other recent 18+ korean games are getting censored left and right for well, the same stuff.

But what I do find it saddening that people are more worried about sentiles or what-other race, or class, or pixel, or an art-style because something looks cute(game characters with lines, big-eyes, doll-headed, mesh-wiring and coloring inside a computer program, not flesh and blood like a real human being) is automatically real-life "child" rather than what is really a typical bishojou type character in a video-game (which is called "moe" style). Yet abortion is pardon and excused but condemned/illegal in korea. Abortion the actual killing and harm of children human-beings(real life) is pardon as a right, but condemn the pixels if someone decides runs around in their undies on a fantasy game that they wanted to play.

Since Scarlet Blade came from Queen's Blade and with the censoring that's going on now I won't be surprise if more is eventually taken out (there are full nude mini games of the other races) and gets turned into a 12+ game.

TheNinjaKitten

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PostedNov 28, 2012 1:45 am

Genjosenpai

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PostedNov 28, 2012 2:44 am
well i am glad they didn't touch my class the ones with claws *cough* XD

Naduron1

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PostedNov 28, 2012 9:35 am
gushberry wrote:
036286375 wrote:
If you have pictures of a 13 year old girl nude, that's considered child pornography.

They do NOT have to be doing any sexual activities.

The Sentinel class looks like a child, and even if there weren't any laws about it, MANY people would be really uncomfortable if they see a nude child in a game like this.

There are many games that have been censored due to this.  



You know it's funny how people suddenly assume with what happened with Tera Online that every single game has to be censored, including any art-form or product. This is not the case and can be (and has been) proven a variety of times ranging with different products and artists under licensing companies in North America. Even titles like "In the Night Kitchen", "Blundering Angel Dokuru-Chan", Vampire Bund, Chobits, ect.

What censoring stems from is a misunderstanding and fear of the entertainment culture and expression around video-games and artwork. I've met with asian people and spoken with them, some of them have become my good friends. It's pretty normal that they have commercials or female-singing groups that have cute, flashy outfits in them as part of the pop-culture, or food being cutesiefied. And there is nothing wrong with how their entertainment is, as it is just a form of entertainment and expression and nothing more. Unfortunately the gaming stigma on 'mainstream gaming' NA seems less of a "melting pot"(i've seen more variety in a bookstore quiet honestly) and less diverse than anything else. I've seen some players(and non-players) really go out the way to almost in a sense condemn those who either

1) Are Asian(Phil Fish anyone?)
2) Like asian-type games or entertainment

Most of the time these types don't even have a clue(or don't care) what the culture or fandom is when they do this. None of them really watch anime at all, or assume that everything is terrible or video-games are connected to real-life based on their own religious standards. Or that fans are devils because they uh, play video-games and watch animated shows that they don't, therefore they must be some sort of vile creeps. Which is not true (consider Ryan Matheson, a pretty normal guy and geek who just likes anime entertainment as a hobby and a fan, and stood up for it too).

Basically there's two ways companies do stuff generally:

1) Companies that stick to their guns of their product
2) Others that make changes/censor


While I can see how some companies want to stay more on the mainstream-'acceptance' side of what gaming is standardized 'to be' and nothing else,it is ironic that SevenCore Online is uncensored(Amani Race) and has the same pixel clothes that got censored on Tera (Elins) and Scarlet Blade (Sentile). Now how is it possible that SevenCore Online, a game already released in english in North America can have uncensored succubus outfits with garter-belts, but all these other recent 18+ korean games are getting censored left and right for well, the same stuff.

But what I do find it saddening that people are more worried about sentiles or what-other race, or class, or pixel, or an art-style because something looks cute(game characters with lines, big-eyes, doll-headed, mesh-wiring and coloring inside a computer program, not flesh and blood like a real human being) is automatically real-life "child" rather than what is really a typical bishojou type character in a video-game (which is called "moe" style). Yet abortion is pardon and excused but condemned/illegal in korea. Abortion the actual killing and harm of children human-beings(real life) is pardon as a right, but condemn the pixels if someone decides runs around in their undies on a fantasy game that they wanted to play.

Since Scarlet Blade came from Queen's Blade and with the censoring that's going on now I won't be surprise if more is eventually taken out (there are full nude mini games of the other races) and gets turned into a 12+ game.  


There is no point in bothering with it, they won't change their attutide against it and they will only ban your account if you keep posting agianst it.

And there is already a fix against the censoring, that's why i stopped bothering with the censoring.

lestat_anil

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PostedNov 28, 2012 9:52 am
Except that the "fix" breaks the Aeria Terms of Service and using it is grounds for getting your account banned, and banned fast.

Please stop spreading it around on the Aeria forums, Naduron.

Naduron1

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PostedNov 28, 2012 9:56 am
lestat_anil wrote:
Except that the "fix" breaks the Aeria Terms of Service and using it is grounds for getting your account banned, and banned fast.

Please stop spreading it around on the Aeria forums, Naduron.  


What are you talking about? I drink a lot of beer to "fix" it for me, so it gets so blurry so i can't see the censoring. xD

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lingu023

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PostedNov 28, 2012 11:19 am
lestat_anil wrote:
Except that the "fix" breaks the Aeria Terms of Service and using it is grounds for getting your account banned, and banned fast.

Please stop spreading it around on the Aeria forums, Naduron.  


Usually next to everything is against the Terms of Service just to make sure nothing is forgotten. For example in FFXI it was against the ToS to record videos with Fraps or listen to music with Winamp, though the moderators actually replied back that these "rule breaking" events were fine.

The companies themselves usually go by "As long as you give us money and don't bother other players, you are OK!". Which is why FFXI had over 50% of their users use windower for being able to alt+tab out of the game, and change armors that were all situational as Hard.

I believe the expression is "A game for the galleries" or something, where it is more about appearing correct, than actually being correct and losing profits.

Naduron1 wrote:
And there is already a fix against the censoring, that's why i stopped bothering with the censoring.  


I stopped because you can pretty fast see when you are talking to someone who cares or doesn't care. Sword Girls replied back that they were listening and agreeing about not wanting censorship in about two days. Here it took two days until they deleted all threads to remove a discussion they had no intention on agreeing with.

This is why Sword Girls get 50 bucks a month from me, for being so awesome and open, while I'm not really expecting to pay these sums on Scarlet Blade.

Be aware that I know that I'm still talking about censorship, but that is just because it is an interesting topic to discuss. Actual expectations or requests to change the decision has stopped.
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