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036286375

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PostedNov 25, 2012 2:59 pm
If you have pictures of a 13 year old girl nude, that's considered child pornography.

They do NOT have to be doing any sexual activities.

The Sentinel class looks like a child, and even if there weren't any laws about it, MANY people would be really uncomfortable if they see a nude child in a game like this.

There are many games that have been censored due to this.

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Avyn

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PostedNov 25, 2012 3:23 pm
HongChina wrote:
I've said this a handful of times before, but there's more to it than just the legal aspect of it.
There's the reputation aspect as well.  

It's also about commercial viability and marketability.

At the end of the day, Aeria has to present a product that Western audiences are going to want to buy.

lingu023

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PostedNov 25, 2012 4:29 pm
Yilette wrote:
lingu023 wrote:
Funny thing about those claimed laws. They do not exist in the western world  


This is untrue. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors
Specifically the section on Canada, which is most likely where the servers will be located.  


By simply reading you can tell that it requires there to be "depiction, for a sexual purpose, of a sexual organ or the anal region". A sentinel wearing a body sock for example would not be a problem in Canada. Which is what I've gotten the impression is the worst you can get.

And let's not start discussing "marketability" here. I've been following TERA. They censored their Elin race. Still got bad reviews whining about "creepy children/pedo game". TERA later added swimsuits without censorship, which was worse than the original armors if you look at skin covered... and there was no complaints at all. NONE.

In other words, TERA gained nothing from censorship, and they simply quit censoring new armors because it was just a waste of time, resources and money.

Aeria games can of course attempt any strategy they want. If censoring makes them feel better, then go ahead. Just don't expect reviewer sites to miss that there is a little child sentinel running around in a porn game in the reviewers eyes.

Yilette

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PostedNov 25, 2012 6:10 pm
lingu023 wrote:
Which is what I've gotten the impression is the worst you can get.  


After unsealing and removing any character's underwear they are left completely naked except for a small pasty on the nether-regions. Toplessness + the stripper dances is probably enough to get in trouble with.

I agree with your other points though. The game's selling point is its adult content and watering that down does not help it. Also the mere fact that there are child-like characters in an adult game will make people uncomfortable. They could look like the OP pic and that wouldn't change.

lingu023

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PostedNov 26, 2012 2:35 pm
Yilette wrote:
lingu023 wrote:
Which is what I've gotten the impression is the worst you can get.  


After unsealing and removing any character's underwear they are left completely naked except for a small pasty on the nether-regions. Toplessness + the stripper dances is probably enough to get in trouble with.

I agree with your other points though. The game's selling point is its adult content and watering that down does not help it. Also the mere fact that there are child-like characters in an adult game will make people uncomfortable. They could look like the OP pic and that wouldn't change.  


Sounds like the one thing that could need some localization, since a limited amount of countries could be upset at just one pasty. Else it was pleasant talking to someone who agrees that people are quick at complaining regardless of what changes have been done.

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PostedNov 26, 2012 6:21 pm
As someone who plays Tera I can say that those who are "uncomfortable" with Elins in swimsuits, etc is a tiny minority. All the races have revealing clothing for the females, and even to an extent for the males. Looking at the population there I'd say the Elin is about the most commonly played race.

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PostedNov 27, 2012 5:04 pm

my problem is with the "joke"

i did expect an official statement to not be just a humorous insult to myself
and a humorous insult is exactly how i took it. It would be the same as someone saying hey I'm releasing this sexy magazine you want to see it, i'm almost done editing all the pics for publishing and then they show you a picture of a chimpanzee in a swimsuit. I would take that as an insult to myself and I would be very tempted to not read the magazine much less buy it because of the negativity I'd felt towards their "sneak preview." I am only still interested in this game because I know that the OP is just one guy and he probably has absolutely nothing to do with the people actually working hard to get this game released to us here in the western hemisphere. Pardon me if that seems like I'm throwing an unneeded "fit" in some of your eyes. I for happen to take anything I'm going to spend my hard earned money on VERY seriously. Have a good day.

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PostedNov 27, 2012 7:27 pm
I thought it was a great joke.

Dresdoe, you're gonna have a hard time with the chat scrawl on your UI if you have a problem with that humor.

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PostedNov 27, 2012 9:09 pm

I doubt it

i don't have a hard time with anything
except letting people talk to me like i'm less intelligent or weak minded. other than that i'm super peachy

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PostedNov 27, 2012 9:44 pm

Re: I doubt it

i don't have a hard time with anything
dresdoe wrote:
except letting people talk to me like i'm less intelligent or weak minded. other than that i'm super peachy  


Then I hope you're more than ready for the trolls that will most likely start springing up in the game once we're able to play. They are there for one purpose: to give everyone a rough time and get on their nerves, just for self-amusement.

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