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PostedJul 24, 2012 3:28 pm   Last edited by trainer772 on Jul 27, 2012 7:40 pm. Edited 3 times in total

Miniguide to penetration

Introduction

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What is penetration?

Penetration is simply the rate of damage loss as a bullet passes through any solid object. Guns with high penetration lose little damage as its bullets pass through obstacles, while guns with low penetration will rapidly lose damage while passing through obstacles.

Penetration is similar to the range stat. Range determines how much damage is lost as a bullet travels a certain distance. The more range a gun has, the less damage the bullet will lose. Penetration follows the basic principals, but only applies when going through armor or solid obstacles.


Solids

Obstacles that activate the penetration stat could be any of the following:
-wooden walls
-window panes
-glass
-doors
-concrete walls
-concrete barriers

And most importantly:
-people
-armor


Penetration applied to obstacles

When bullets collide with obstacles, four factors affect how much damage is lost and if the bullet can actually make it through.

1. Initial damage upon impact. Guns with low penetration but high damage will still most likely go through obstacles purely from the fact that they had a lot of damage to start with. Most low-penetration sniper rifles follow this rule and can pass through weak obstacles and corners of walls.

2. Penetration. Guns like the SA58 para can wallbang concrete and wooden obstacles. These guns have high penetration so they suffer little damage loss as they pass through obstacles.

3. Type of obstacle. Obstacles made of glass, wood, or tin will be easy for most guns to pass through. However, a slab of concrete will only be penetrated by guns with both high penetration and high initial damage.

4. Amount of obstacle penetrated. A bullet from a veresk may be able to go through corners of concrete walls because the corners are only 6 to 12 inches. However, it cannot go through a whole concrete slab (roughly 2 feet in length) because the bullet loses damage at a linear rate as it passes through more and more solids. Likewise, a thin sheet of tin will be very easy for most low-penetration RM guns to wallbang.


Penetration applied to players

When bullets collide with people, the following things are taken into consideration:
1. How much damage did the bullet start with? This one is obvious and does not need to be explained.

2. Where did the bullet hit? If the bullet hit anywhere except for the chest or helmet, the damage is multiplied by the body part multiplier and applied.

3. If the bullet hit the chest, guts or limb, the type of armor and the amount of penetration is taken into account.
High penetration guns will lose a lot of damage as they pass through large-caliber armor until the large caliber armor is destroyed, but will pass through anti-charge armor like a hot knife through butter.
Low penetration guns will be unable to pass through large-caliber armor until it is destroyed, and they will lose a considerable percentage of damage as they pass through anti-charge armor.
Therefore, high-penetration guns are effective against large-caliber armor and anti-charge armor, while low penetration guns are moderately effective against large-caliber armor and weak against anti-charge armor.

4. If the bullet hit the helmet, the initial damage and the penetration is taken into account. Higher penetration and higher damage will make it more likely for a bullet to knock the helmet off, while lower damage or lower penetration will make it less likely for the bullet to knock the helmet off.


Guns with Penetration

XCR*
PP2000** (only with penetration mod)
MP7*
AKs-74u**
Veresk***
Groza** (not released yet)
M14***
SA58***
AWM**
FRF2 (Penetration status debated)
Knight SR25**** (One of the highest in the game!)
TPG1****

Just a measure of how much penetration some guns have.




That's my penetration mini guide, created in a record 15 minutes! I hope you guys enjoy it! Try not to flame~
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trainer772

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PostedJul 24, 2012 3:29 pm
Post reserve.

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PostedJul 25, 2012 1:02 am
Didn't snow say that the angle of penetration mattered too?

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PostedJul 25, 2012 3:53 am
Thanks for the guide, it taught me stuff I didn't even know applied to A.v.A.
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PostedJul 27, 2012 4:51 pm
aks, mp7 and veresk actualy have same penetration? really?

than i dont see how veresk is better than aks-74u

pretty sure veresk pentration is a lot higher than mp7 and aks

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PostedJul 27, 2012 7:36 pm
SiaoJyun wrote:
aks, mp7 and veresk actualy have same penetration? really?

than i dont see how veresk is better than aks-74u

pretty sure veresk pentration is a lot higher than mp7 and aks  
Actually, no
Veresk has the most, AKs has penetration by merit of firing rifle rounds, and MP7's penetration is mediocre at best BUT noticeable against helmets and 09 armor.
I edited the stars Neutral

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PostedJul 28, 2012 4:08 am
trainer772 wrote:
SiaoJyun wrote:
aks, mp7 and veresk actualy have same penetration? really?

than i dont see how veresk is better than aks-74u

pretty sure veresk pentration is a lot higher than mp7 and aks  
Actually, no
Veresk has the most, AKs has penetration by merit of firing rifle rounds, and MP7's penetration is mediocre at best BUT noticeable against helmets and 09 armor.
I edited the stars Neutral  


Maybe you could use stars out of 5 or out of 10, 3 is hard because it makes seeem some same but they are not

just a suggestion

and yeah when it comes to penetration it felt like u said veresk > aks > mp7

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PostedJul 28, 2012 2:33 pm
is not the angle, its the fact that the corner of concrete estructures become the wood level so they can be penetrated.

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PostedAug 03, 2012 11:42 am
Why is TPG so high? Chest shot through the wall never 1shots and does max like 70% from my experience. As long as the sniper rifle 1shots to the head (most do, don't they?) and doesnt 1shot body through walls (is there any that does?), the amount of damage done itself doesnt matter at all.

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PostedSep 03, 2012 11:10 am
No AK47 ?
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