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TeraRainbows

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PostedJul 20, 2012 8:05 pm   Last edited by TeraRainbows on Sep 10, 2012 5:33 pm. Edited 2 times in total

Don't get scammed!!!!

This can't be said enough....
Although this topic has been brought up a series of times, the issue of it still lives!!! And as of lately, it's been happening a LOT more...so this is just a friendly reminder...

Players, new and old, be careful of in-game scammers!
-Especially NEW players.

****NOTICE****
To players who do not "use" the forums: While it is NOT required of you to use the forums, know that forums are here for your benefit. If not to use them for posting, at the very least, CHECK the forums actively for info regarding players and any other important information posted here on the forums.

Tips:


  • Try a background check:

    -When trading with anyone, especially someone unknown to you, check that players credibility BEFORE agreeing to trade with them and BEFORE sending any items/weapons/gears/AP to them!!! Ask around for them in game or on the forums. Check out their reputation with other players, friends, guildies and see if they're reliable. If word comes back that they're not, trading is not recommended!

  • Ask a GS to monitor your trade:

    -GS's are here to help. If you want our help in trading, be it even for us just to watch, all you have to do is ask. As stated before, most of us, if not all, will have absolutely no problem with doing so. Some people my feel reassured with having a GS present to watch a transaction between players, and some may feel threatened due to it. If a player refuses to allow a GS to watch the trade, you may need to re-think trading with them.

    If not a GS, any type of middleman to watch the transaction who will bear witness if anything about the trade goes wrong.

  • Person begs or tries pressuring you into a trade:

    -Not to say all who may beg for a trade are scammers, some of these people you should still be careful about. If they seem overly determined in getting you to trade with them, it could potentially be an unsafe trade. If the person does not back down after you have refused them and resorts to insulting you, name calling, and any continuous harassment, blocking the person and reporting (if wanted) is recommended.

  • If they are a known scammer:

    -Some people can change, yes! But if the player is KNOWN to scam and you STILL decided to trade with them, that is technically a situation you allowed yourself to get into. DON'T ALLOW YOURSELF TO BECOME A VICTIM!

    There are plenty of other, more reliable, people in game to trade with. Find one!

  • Players asks for your account info to "gift" you AP, ect:

    -Although this hasn't happened much to my knowledge or too recently, doing this is strongly not recommended for two reasons:

    A: You should NEVER give your account info out, especially to a stranger. It is also against ToS.

    B: Any person who asks for your account info has great potential to be a scammer.

    -This also includes being linked to sites that claim free AP rewards, where it asked that you put your Aeria Games account info in. Do NOT do it. Other than the offers listed on the AGE site itself, GM's have already made it clear that there are no other legit free AP offers.

    Phishing site example & official post by GM: http://www.aeriagames.com/forums/en/viewtopic.php?t=1632515#13750313



In the event that you're scammed, take screenshots of the chat logs. Get as much proof as you can regarding the conditions you and said scammer agreed upon, how they were violated, and what items were wrongfully stolen from you. Compile all evidence you can find and send a ticket to GM's through Contact Us. Be sure to specify in the ticket your situation clearly.

(Also be sure to fill out the ticket form correctly and sending it to the right games GM's)

Anything else someone wants to point out or have added in, PM me about it, and I'll have it listed.
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AndyAngelz

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PostedJul 20, 2012 8:33 pm
it took years until someone finally created this thread

Finish what you started

TeraRainbows

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PostedJul 20, 2012 8:48 pm
AndyAngelz wrote:
it took years until someone finally created this thread  


Not true. All weren't made completely the same, but general idea was touched.

Examples:
DLO's Post

Allan's Post

I only remade/made my version due to the recent and increasing incidents of it.

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Lady_Toorima

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PostedJul 20, 2012 8:57 pm
TeraRainbows wrote:

I only remade/made my version due to the recent and increasing incidents of it.  


Cause ppl are....slow.... >.>

TeraRainbows

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PostedJul 20, 2012 9:02 pm
Lady_Toorima wrote:
TeraRainbows wrote:

I only remade/made my version due to the recent and increasing incidents of it.  


Cause ppl are....slow.... >.>  


Tell me about it.... =_=

Common sense in some is lacking....

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Xeth_Xiahou

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PostedJul 20, 2012 10:50 pm

Give a definitive bye to scammed items !

And personal help from GSes ?
GS monitoring, as if it would be enough for full protection...

Even if a GS totally confirms a scam with all the possible proofs, even if Aeria may ban the scammed, Aeria does NOT give back any scammed item !
Well, account banned -> Scammer will remake another one and spend money
Not giving back scammed item -> Victim will spend money to compensate the lost item
Money money, Aeria !


TeraRainbows wrote:
[*] Ask a GS to monitor your trade:

-GS's are here to help. If you want our help in trading, be it even for us just to watch, all you have to do is ask. As stated before, most of us, if not all, will have absolutely no problem with doing so. Some people my feel reassured with having a GS present to watch a transaction between players, and some may feel threatened due to it. If a player refuses to allow a GS to watch the trade, you may need to re-think trading with them.

If not a GS, any type of middleman to watch the transaction who will bear witness if anything about the trade goes wrong.  


GS here to help in personal trades ? Nope, I hadn't read that a long time ago.

ivanKaliayev wrote:
Xeth_Xiahou wrote:
I can call (if online) a GS to record and lead a deal too.  


Nope. People need to stop making such claims.  

Quotation is in this thread : http://www.aeriagames.com/forums/en/viewtopic.php?p=12340009#12340009

Seriously, no matter the precautions Aeria's players take, but scammed items are not given back, so how can people really feel comfortable in trading/buying/selling, in particular with newbies ? I myself have my own precautions, but that is not as simple as that for everybody.

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PostedJul 20, 2012 11:50 pm
People never listen and always ask for help.
Then it come to "Send a Request Ticket"

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PostedJul 21, 2012 12:57 am

I know. its sad

i know
I know the feeling, I got scammed before ,Someone scammed my vorpal orb, I have a screen shot-chatlog- even a friend witness

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PostedJul 21, 2012 1:10 am

Re: Give a definitive bye to scammed items !

And personal help from GSes ?
Xeth_Xiahou wrote:
GS monitoring, as if it would be enough for full protection...

Even if a GS totally confirms a scam with all the possible proofs, even if Aeria may ban the scammed, Aeria does NOT give back any scammed item !
Well, account banned -> Scammer will remake another one and spend money
Not giving back scammed item -> Victim will spend money to compensate the lost item
Money money, Aeria !


TeraRainbows wrote:
[*] Ask a GS to monitor your trade:

-GS's are here to help. If you want our help in trading, be it even for us just to watch, all you have to do is ask. As stated before, most of us, if not all, will have absolutely no problem with doing so. Some people my feel reassured with having a GS present to watch a transaction between players, and some may feel threatened due to it. If a player refuses to allow a GS to watch the trade, you may need to re-think trading with them.

If not a GS, any type of middleman to watch the transaction who will bear witness if anything about the trade goes wrong.  


GS here to help in personal trades ? Nope, I hadn't read that a long time ago.

ivanKaliayev wrote:
Xeth_Xiahou wrote:
I can call (if online) a GS to record and lead a deal too.  


Nope. People need to stop making such claims.  

Quotation is in this thread : http://www.aeriagames.com/forums/en/viewtopic.php?p=12340009#12340009

Seriously, no matter the precautions Aeria's players take, but scammed items are not given back, so how can people really feel comfortable in trading/buying/selling, in particular with newbies ? I myself have my own precautions, but that is not as simple as that for everybody.  


When you do a trade, it is your responsibility 100%. You are responsible for profile checking and verifying that person as honest for the trade. It is your decision and thus you are to hold all consequences that befall that decision. Yes, there is a policy against scammers, but GMs (or anyone, for that matter) have no requirement to reimburse you with your item back.

When trading, you are taking a risk. Try finding alternative solutions. If you are not satisfied with how the GMs settle scam cases, then send a ticket with your thoughts, or don't bother and be wary of what you trade, who you trade with, and how you trade it.

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PostedJul 21, 2012 1:28 am
I stopped trading period. After the Calinion incident I seen how it was handled and seen that there is no real protection from stealing. Communities loss. I also buy less ap because of this so aeria's loss too.
Aeria should rethink their policy in regards of returning stolen goods.
I gave calinion a cape and quit trading that day.
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