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PostedMay 03, 2012 7:11 am   Last edited by Disqmaster on May 15, 2012 7:06 am. Edited 1 time in total

So are GSs the same as everyone else

Think again

Now if you stay within the ToC you think everything will be fine

How wrong can you be

If a GS does not like what you say even if there is nothing wrong with it

It will be deleted


If you post something even in the right forum and a GS doesnt like it they will have it locked

They might say one thing in one thread but do the exact opposite in another

This is OK because they are a GS


And if you point out their failing to them the post will be removed and you will be told to send in a RT


So as this is the Rants Forum

Keep your hands off please
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PostedMay 03, 2012 7:44 am
examples?
links?


Thanks SeeYouInTea for yet another a great Sig!

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PostedMay 03, 2012 7:47 am

Re: So GSs are the same as everyone else

Disqmaster wrote:
Think again

Now if you stay within the ToC you think everything will be fine

How wrong can you be

If a GS does not like what you say even if there is nothing wrong with it

It will be deleted


If you post something even in the right forum and a GS doesnt like it they will have it locked

They might say one thing in one thread but do the exact opposite in another

This is OK because they are a GS


And if you point out their failing to them the post will be removed and you will be told to send in a RT


So as this is the Rants Forum

Keep your hands off please  


GSes besides Forum GSes don't have power to move or delete posts or things on SB. They have the power to REPORT things they see wrong. Then it's up to either a Forum GS or GM to delete if they deem the report to be necessary or true.

Just because you think there is nothing wrong with it, doesn't mean there isn't. Now if you feel that you have been wronged in some way or feel that someone is abusing their power, feel free to send in a Contact Us usually at the bottom of the page and report their behaviour. Please do provide proof as well.

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PostedMay 03, 2012 7:57 am
99% of the time that players think they are following TOS, they aren't. We are actually way less strick than the TOS demand us to be when it comes to the forum community.

However you have every right to rant away, but if you don't show us any examples of this actually happening i won't believe its true.

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PostedMay 03, 2012 8:41 am
jotasnake wrote:
99% of the time that players think they are following TOS, they aren't. We are actually way less strick than the TOS demand us to be when it comes to the forum community.

However you have every right to rant away, but if you don't show us any examples of this actually happening i won't believe its true.  


http://www.aeriagames.com/forums/en/viewtopic.php?t=1561097 Locked

andro wrote:
Lets please address all feedback to the proper feedback thread to keep this neat and as organized a transition as possible.  



http://www.aeriagames.com/forums/en/viewtopic.php?t=1561141 Not locked

Now I will draw your attention to this part

andro wrote:
This thread pertains specifically to what Cash-Shop items the community may or may not feel should be available as was mentioned as a possibility for the new server.

Lets' see some good Specific feedback on this Specific topic  



Now it would appear that ALL FEEDBACK means different things

I pointed this out in a post which was deleted

Also the second post has strayed off feedback and suggestions but he is still posting in it


Now don't forget you asked for examples

And I am posting in the correct forum

And yes I have also followed the correct procedures and sent in a RT


And I wish to make this point

I did not say ALL GSs

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PostedMay 03, 2012 8:53 am
Disqmaster wrote:
jotasnake wrote:
99% of the time that players think they are following TOS, they aren't. We are actually way less strick than the TOS demand us to be when it comes to the forum community.

However you have every right to rant away, but if you don't show us any examples of this actually happening i won't believe its true.  


http://www.aeriagames.com/forums/en/viewtopic.php?t=1561097 Locked

andro wrote:
Lets please address all feedback to the proper feedback thread to keep this neat and as organized a transition as possible.  



http://www.aeriagames.com/forums/en/viewtopic.php?t=1561141 Not locked

Now I will draw your attention to this part

andro wrote:
This thread pertains specifically to what Cash-Shop items the community may or may not feel should be available as was mentioned as a possibility for the new server.

Lets' see some good Specific feedback on this Specific topic  



Now it would appear that ALL FEEDBACK means different things

I pointed this out in a post which was deleted

Also the second post has strayed off feedback and suggestions but he is still posting in it


Now don't forget you asked for examples

And I am posting in the correct forum

And yes I have also followed the correct procedures and sent in a RT


And I wish to make this point

I did not say ALL GSs  


I actually think Andaro was in the right in this instance.

You did happen to start a new thread on a topic already being discussed in an official thread on the forums that would have been better served in the actual thread.

However this other player started a new thread that, while related, had a different specific agenda and point to make and discuss with the community.

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PostedMay 03, 2012 8:55 am
Disqmaster wrote:

Now don't forget you asked for examples

And I am posting in the correct forum

And yes I have also followed the correct procedures and sent in a RT


And I wish to make this point

I did not say ALL GSs  


Glad to you have posted some examples.

Yes you are posting in the correct forum.

That's good that you have gone through the correct procedures. Just making sure because not everyone is familiar with the procedure so we kind of have to include it when trying to help someone.

You didn't say all GSes but you also didn't specify that it was only one GS therefore you were targeting GS as a whole when what you previously said. Your title for your post is:

"So GSs are the same as everyone else"

Plural form, not singular. And the rest of the post you basically explained a situation but didn't clarify as to if a specific GS or if it was multiple accounts with a different GS. I figured it was only one GS you have a complaint against but it was a matter of how you worded it.

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PostedMay 03, 2012 11:01 am
A GS is like everyone else in the sense that by job description, they have no special powers that would give them an advantage in the game that others don't have. They do not have any special ability to influence the treatment of other players based solely on the fact that they have a tag.

A GS is not a policeman or enforcer. They are there primarily to be a contact point for other players that are in need of information and/or assistance. They are also there to keep the community engaged and maintain the best possible gaming experience that they can. To that end, they are also charged with trying to maintain a fun, non-threatening environment which often results in having to remind people when their behavior could result in adverse actions from the AGE staff.

While they have no actual authority to administer punitive actions, and are usually immediately dismissed by staff if they threaten to do so, they do have the ability and responsibility to bring any situation that can't be resolved at their level to the staff. This applies not only in the game involved, but in the forum community as well.

Nobody in the games or in forums should feel that they don't have the freedom and ability to enjoy the game or express their views, as long as they do so within the rules. It is the duty and responsibility of the GS Team and Forum Mods to make sure that those things are protected and that nobody is restricted or silenced due to the adverse actions or verbal attacks of others.

A GS is not perfect and they will be the first to admit that. They do and will continue to make occasional mistakes. Nobody should give them a free pass simply because they are a GS, nor should they make a huge issue out of it because they are a GS. Those mistakes should be treated as if they were made by any normal player, since that is actually the case. Try speaking to the individual privately and resolving the situation, as you would with anyone else. If all else fails, report them, as you would anyone else.

I guess if you take anything at all away from this, I would hope that it's that a GS should not be specifically targeted simply because they have tags and it wouldn't be honest to say that to some extent there aren't a few with tags that do have and easier path to the staff and perhaps even a very small amount of influence on a situation, but that isn't a direct result of having tags and is heavily dependent on the individuals service to the community and the reputation that they have built in regards to fairness and good judgement that is based on that service.

Finally, to the title of the thread; So GSs are the same as everyone else. . . . . . No, they absolutely are NOT the same as everyone else. They have taken that extra step of taking away from their game time to support and build the community. They all too often face overwhelming situations armed only with common sense, tons on patience and an end desire to make things better. They willingly accept a position where many will hate them, even more will flame them and they will suffer endless hours of abuse at the hands of their fellow players, and yet the do it because they want to make a difference and they genuinely care.

Have a great day.

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PostedMay 03, 2012 11:13 am
Snowydew wrote:
Disqmaster wrote:
jotasnake wrote:
99% of the time that players think they are following TOS, they aren't. We are actually way less strick than the TOS demand us to be when it comes to the forum community.

However you have every right to rant away, but if you don't show us any examples of this actually happening i won't believe its true.  


http://www.aeriagames.com/forums/en/viewtopic.php?t=1561097 Locked

andro wrote:
Lets please address all feedback to the proper feedback thread to keep this neat and as organized a transition as possible.  



http://www.aeriagames.com/forums/en/viewtopic.php?t=1561141 Not locked

Now I will draw your attention to this part

andro wrote:
This thread pertains specifically to what Cash-Shop items the community may or may not feel should be available as was mentioned as a possibility for the new server.

Lets' see some good Specific feedback on this Specific topic  



Now it would appear that ALL FEEDBACK means different things

I pointed this out in a post which was deleted

Also the second post has strayed off feedback and suggestions but he is still posting in it


Now don't forget you asked for examples

And I am posting in the correct forum

And yes I have also followed the correct procedures and sent in a RT


And I wish to make this point

I did not say ALL GSs  


I actually think Andaro was in the right in this instance.

You did happen to start a new thread on a topic already being discussed in an official thread on the forums that would have been better served in the actual thread.

However this other player started a new thread that, while related, had a different specific agenda and point to make and discuss with the community.  



Both topics were discussed in the main Feedback thread

Mine was not about Feedback it was about things that might help the transition


I was asked for an example I am not going to list everything


Dajess wrote:
Nobody in the games or in forums should feel that they don't have the freedom and ability to enjoy the game or express their views, as long as they do so within the rules. It is the duty and responsibility of the GS Team and Forum Mods to make sure that those things are protected and that nobody is restricted or silenced due to the adverse actions or verbal attacks of others.  


Think that says it all


And by the way I do know alot of what GSs do, as one of the first Guilds I was in had GM Krash and 5 GSs

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PostedMay 03, 2012 11:23 am
On the time you made that topic, everything related to the server merge was being kept in one place to be easily read by the boss when he needed feedback.

The one that wasn't locked was related to the new server. However if you feel it should be locked you can always leave a message to a GS or a Mod and they will take a look over it.

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