Clearly it's exploitable, but I'm for personal freedom, so I would enjoy this system anyway, even knowing that I would be blocked by a good number of player. There are players I know to be crapmouthed and racist I dislike being in the same arena, much more same team.

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One, it's an unfair way of determining an AFK/Leacher, as "block" is used for many reasons - either being harassed/annoyed or simply blocking spammers. So the limited block space will ultimately stop the mass blocking of spammers in world, peer, etc. Unless a mechanism is developed specifically for Arena blocking, but such system wouldn't be a proficient way of determining an AFK/Leacher from lets say a player that's better than you or offending you in some way or form.

Random que - this will have to be revamped. This system will have to go through people who are queing blocked list, that alone will make time que longer - along with making sure that xxxxxxx player doesn't que into your match or on your side - plus that other player queing in your match, and that other player, AND that other player is accounted for. Lets say due to you blocking that "suppose AFK/leacher" now the AFK is on the other side, how does that make the opposition feels? How about there isn't enough players in the que? Will the system than override the action and still allow that person in your block list to join either side or in your arena?

In my mind, It's more of a way of queing in players that are appropriate for you and not for the actual cause. Hence trolls/others can ruin time ques because they either not allowed that player on their side or in Arena, making that falsely banned user que longer, and most likely effecting other ques.

give to afkers AFK title ^.^ and low their stats

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Sigh... other than me, who am a confessed AFKer, how do you recognize for sure an AFKer? Please answer, because it's THE WHOLE POINT OF 90% OF THE DISCUSSION SO FAR.

The moment you know a fireproof way to recognize AFKers, you can do whatever you want. Arena bans, red names (meaning everyone can attack you any moment), going to their home and slapping them on the face.

Unability to know if someone is an AFKer or not is the reason AFKing is not a bannable offence in the first place. Else I would not AFK myself, don't you think?

My whole point is a borderline blocking list wouldn't be an effective way of "punishing" an AFK or knowing if that person is AFK as JUST "blocking" involves to many assumptions. An Like previously stated, nothing can be a for sure way of knowing if that person is an AFK. BUT In my opinion, it isn't really an ideal system of trying to stop an AFK but to pleasure people who find a snot-nose annoying.

Yes Vote AFK and other ideas involves assumptions also but it presents intervals to make the most "accurate" assumption based upon if that players is either filling a gauge or doing string of actions. Just blocking a person isn't very ideal.

Also would like to say I'm not against the idea of a block list.

I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but there is no way that Aeria could ensure a "voting system" or a block list would not be exploited in some way. It would be far too easy for a rival guild to vote down or "block" another guild in order to somehow inhibit various players from enjoying the full extent of the game.

On top of this big flaw, it would simply cause Aeria much more grief than they have time for. Not to mention a crap ton of reports to sift through, it would be up to them to decide what is an acceptable AFK and what isn't. And quite frankly, no one has the ability to judge whether someone else has the right to simply walk away from his/her computer.

So no, I don't think they should be punished.

I think the solution is simple. If you do not move at all in one round, you get a debuff that prevents you rejoining the arena for 30 minutes.

If you do not deal x damage, you get a debuff that prevents you from rejoining the arena for 30 minutes.

If you do not heal y damage, you get a debuff that prevents you from rejoining the arena for 30 minutes.

So if you do not move or dmg/heal - you get booted. The freedom of choice is still there, but your impact on other players is limited.

Alamareth1 wrote:

I think the solution is simple. If you do not move at all in one round, you get a debuff that prevents you rejoining the arena for 30 minutes. If you do not deal x damage, you get a debuff that prevents you from rejoining the arena for 30 minutes. If you do not heal y damage, you get a debuff that prevents you from rejoining the arena for 30 minutes. So if you do not move or dmg/heal - you get booted. The freedom of choice is still there, but your impact on other players is limited.

If that was done, you get another problem you run into: what if your team wins too easily because someone was OP and you didn't get any damage in?
Or what if the other team kills the healer too fast they can't heal, and get defector?

I think afkers shouldn't be punished simply because any system that could be implemented would likely be more of a problem than afkers ever were in the first place.

Laurentio wrote:

<facepalm> Sigh... other than me, who am a confessed AFKer, how do you recognize for sure an AFKer? Please answer, because it's THE WHOLE POINT OF 90% OF THE DISCUSSION SO FAR. The moment you know a fireproof way to recognize AFKers, you can do whatever you want. Arena bans, red names (meaning everyone can attack you any moment), going to their home and slapping them on the face. Unability to know if someone is an AFKer or not is the reason AFKing is not a bannable offence in the first place. Else I would not AFK myself, don't you think?

I don't understand this mentality. "I can get away with it so I'm going to ruin arena for others." AFKers literally suck all the fun out of arena. I always fight even if it is 3v1 but even if I win a round it is even more depressing because then I know we would have won the entire thing 3v3.

Voting and GM oversight are the only measures I can see for foolproof tagging, an automated system is always going to catch the occasional normal afker but honestly I wouldn't care. If you have to leave your computer for something you shouldn't get rewarded for it anyways.

Your opinion. I think of AFking as essentially harmless. Should I change my mind, I would stop doing it.
To explain it better, I do stick to rules and to my ethic. AFKing is not against rules, and not against my ethic. Should it became against rules, I would stop because I respect rules.
We can discuss my ethic, but I'm pretty sure that no one would change his mind after a long and flaming argument. Eventually, you are welcomed to open a different thread or contact me privately.