1)Dajess you are very right.
2) Please don't attack my English. I know it's not perfect but I am in progress of improving it.
3)Tokens to be removable from game that would be a good ideea also.
It's a good start. If we work togheter we can do it.

Best regards,

-JoE

how to fix the economy? *buy your own AP*
else shush and let the people get their money's worth.
i mean since they empty their wallet to hear the black smith crack a joke on em

OP merchant with OPs being sold at 2,2b is an excellent idea, dunno why it hasn't been implemented yet.
Even more frustrating is that the GMs read this yet they don't bother replying because they are too busy posting pictures in idiotic posts like THE PONY THREAD or THE RANDOM IMAGE THREAD.
When it comes to the community's needs, like ingame issues or forum issues like Meebo for example, they are like:

And when the community actually expresses disapproval and complains, they are like:

and run away from the thread at full speed or lock it.

So could the GMs give us a heads up about what they think?

ShinyKaiser wrote:

OP merchant with OPs being sold at 2,2b is an excellent idea, dunno why it hasn't been implemented yet. Even more frustrating is that the GMs read this yet they don't bother replying because they are too busy posting pictures in idiotic posts like THE PONY THREAD or THE RANDOM IMAGE THREAD. When it comes to the community's needs, like ingame issues or forum issues like Meebo for example, they are like: *see image* And when the community actually expresses disapproval and complains, they are like: *see Image* and run away from the thread at full speed or lock it. So could the GMs give us a heads up about what they think?

U MEAN REPLYING TO TICKETS THAT PPL WILL QQ ABOUT IF NOT ANSWERD??? OR MAYBE SINCE THE GMS HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT GETS DEVELOPED THEY CANT SAY YAY OR NAY, BUT OFC, KNOWING EVERYTHING YOU MUST ALREADY HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS POSSIBILITY.

I know im not perfect but c'mon ..

Killa_1112 wrote:

U MEAN REPLYING TO TICKETS THAT PPL WILL QQ ABOUT IF NOT ANSWERD??? OR MAYBE SINCE THE GMS HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT GETS DEVELOPED THEY CANT SAY YAY OR NAY, BUT OFC, KNOWING EVERYTHING YOU MUST ALREADY HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS POSSIBILITY. I know im not perfect but c'mon ..

And Idk why I even bother to open people's eyes. Yay GMs, go go deal with tickets (5+ days for one), Yay for generic replies!
Yay for ponies pictures.
Ofc they have control over such issues and for things being as they are, unless everything is released via AP etc only in my own parallel universe.
And BTW, I don't need to say anything more, spaznick's avatar says more than enough (a sir over a mountain of money he effortlessly got).

ShinyKaiser wrote:

OP merchant with OPs being sold at 2,2b is an excellent idea, dunno why it hasn't been implemented yet. Even more frustrating is that the GMs read this yet they don't bother replying because they are too busy posting pictures in idiotic posts like THE PONY THREAD or THE RANDOM IMAGE THREAD. When it comes to the community's needs, like ingame issues or forum issues like Meebo for example, they are like: And when the community actually expresses disapproval and complains, they are like: and run away from the thread at full speed or lock it. So could the GMs give us a heads up about what they think?

you made me lol ahahaha <333333333333333333333333333333333333 lotta 3s for you buddy

u mean pens?

Yea, sorry that they show they are humans once in a while.

Picture this, you are working for a company as a sales rep, someone comes in telling you to change the price on something your company is selling and wont take no for an answer.

Now, difference scenario but same principle, you are putting the GMs in that position demanding them to post a yes or no answer on something that have completly no control over, you arent opening peoples eyes, you are either deluded, trolling or being stupid.

Killa_1112 wrote:

Now, difference scenario but same principle, you are putting the GMs in that position demanding them to post a yes or no answer on something that have completly no control over, you arent opening peoples eyes, you are either deluded, trolling or being stupid.

Yes I believe it is time they came to that point, and as of what I'm writing, it's my opinion, like how other people have their opinions, you don't have to criticize it like how I don't criticize yours. You wanna keep it civil, cool - you don't? Then your criticism is not needed. I am not the bad guy here, you don't see people complaining about me, if the fact that almost everyone blames such matters on Devs / GMs / PMs doesn't tell you anything, then good luck on your /GMs are innocent puppies campaign.

Before the thread runs away I'd like to offer another point of view.

I think too many consider this a "them vs. us" issue. It really isn't.

Everybody has a stake in what happens and has an interest in the survival of the game.

A lot of players have made an investment, whether in time, money, effort or all of the above. They naturally want to know that the future of that investment is secure and that they haven't wasted all of their resources for nothing.

The Shaiya staff has an interest since this is how they make their living. Besides satisfying their natural need for fun and human involvement, it pays the bills. It allows them to support themselves and their families.

AGE has an interest since this is a product that they offer on the market and they win by continuing to offer a good product, while at the same time, building and maintaining a good reputation within the gaming community.

Any attempt at a solution must take all of the groups involved into consideration. If the needs of any of the groups is abandoned or neglected then it's a losing situation for all in the long run.

If you hope to create a win/win/win scenario then you have to take a few minutes and make every effort to see things from the other points of view. Only then will you be able to work towards a solution that works.

Argument may illustrate your passion about an issue, but it very rarely, if ever, provides a solution to a problem.

I cant see a balanced economy for shaiya anymore, Ops have reached 3b ppl will buy them and as long as a few have that ability the rest have to deal with those prices. Remember ppl will pay a price they still consider acceptable for them, and this prices become that all because of the lack of Ops compared to its supply. Alot of ppl buying and stocking OPs in their wh gettting ready for ep6, then there are those in need of OPs to finish their 70 sets and some others wanting to keep their worth in something that wont lose value. Lets be fair to all of u accusing ppl of keeping Ops in their wh, if they kept their worth in gold they would be worth close to nothing as time progresses. For example if some old player comes back to game and he still has 400ops he bought at 1b, if he would of kept his worth in gold right now he would have 400b which is 1/3 of the worth if he would have if stored his ingame worth in something that doesnt loses value in this case the OP. My reasoning here if gold loses its value all because there is too much of it ingame, if an OP merchant is put ingame with unlimited supply wouldnt that kinda make the OP eventully close to worthless? The Op would become just like another gold bar just worth 2.2, and i dont remember gold bars doing much for the economy. Over all if the OP leaves to be just another gold bar, then it leaves a space for something else to be used as value storage, which will eventually bring us back to this same point. Now this is just me trying to reason what i see ingame, im probably close to wrong with all of this and you can tear my thoughts apart as you may like.
just enjoy the music