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PostedMar 14, 2012 9:59 pm   Last edited by aedriaizalizk on Mar 14, 2012 10:00 pm. Edited 1 time in total
Sekatya wrote:
HR aside, a 93x2 does NOT have a magic attack nor an intelligence bonus now does it?  

Err, you started strong with a good point about the additional int and mag att seals on Keron till you said this. Hr most certainly does have an effect on damage output, both physical and magical. If I recall, 100hr adds like 1%-2% of output damage, with the effect being even higher in PvP.

But I do agree to an extent, Gosp could use an acc set containing 2x93hr, 9 mag att and 16 int spread out across 2-3 acc, with no other seal being anything that would affect att/dmg and then compare that with the Keron.
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PostedMar 14, 2012 9:59 pm
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Gospodja wrote:
LordSentinel wrote:

LordSentinel wrote:
... then would you say a 115 Magic Hit rate seal is around 3-3.5 times more effective than a 112 Hit rate seal?  
Idk that cause didn't tested yet.  
I guess I can find that out for sure but it still doesn't add up because a 93 accessory raises your magic hit rate 93... So it is impossible for a magic hit rate seal to be more effective than a plain hit rate seal which raises magic hit rate by the same exact amount.  
Look my video from beginning of this topic. Keron acc giving me more damage output than 2x93hr!  

So what you are saying is magic hit rate gives more ATTACK than regular hit rate? again I can test this for sure later.

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PostedMar 14, 2012 10:03 pm
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Look my video from beginning of this topic. Keron acc giving me more damage output than 2x93hr!  


Of course the keron mage acc is going to give you a slightly higher damage output than a clean 93x2,
HR aside, a 93x2 does NOT have a magic attack nor an intelligence bonus now does it? Go find a 93x2 acc with magic attack 9 and intelligence 16 and then compare..oh wait, you cant they dont exist in that particular grouping of stats. but if you could you would find that the 93x2 would indeed be stronger than the keron. Until you can compare both accs on a level field perhaps you should not recommend.
I myself have a 155 witch, and though you may enjoy that accessory theres no way that i would EVER swap out a my HRs for that acc. even the pops would pwn me before i could kill em.
Just adding my 2cents. whos got change?  

I will be able to test this by Friday.

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PostedMar 14, 2012 10:05 pm
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So what you are saying is magic hit rate gives more ATTACK than regular hit rate? again I can test this for sure later.  

Please do. I would really like to know if Gosp is right about;

a) a magic hit rate seal makes you more accurate(increase chances of landing) compared to a normal(pure) hit rate seal of the same value

b) magic hit rate gives a substantial amount more att than regular hit rate does

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PostedMar 14, 2012 10:07 pm
lol yes i know hr does affect damage dear, my point is he cant compare a 93x2 clean against keron. perhaps a test of first keron equipped alone, and a second test of a 93x2 with magic attack 9 combined with a noob acc of only int 16. Then he would have 93x2/mag atk 9/int 16 between 2 accs to compare more accurately against the single keron

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PostedMar 14, 2012 10:13 pm
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lol yes i know hr does affect damage dear, my point is he cant compare a 93x2 clean against keron. perhaps a test of first keron equipped alone, and a second test of a 93x2 with magic attack 9 combined with a noob acc of only int 16. Then he would have 93x2/mag atk 9/int 16 between 2 accs to compare more accurately against the single keron  


I have a pure magic hit rate accessory I can test with

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PostedMar 14, 2012 10:16 pm
Please do SoS,be greatly appreciated Wink I havent opened keron on tairen yet or id test myself >.<

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PostedMar 14, 2012 10:17 pm
aedriaizalizk wrote:
Surestrike wrote:
So what you are saying is magic hit rate gives more ATTACK than regular hit rate? again I can test this for sure later.  

Please do. I would really like to know if Gosp is right about;

a) a magic hit rate seal makes you more accurate(increase chances of landing) compared to a normal(pure) hit rate seal of the same value

b) magic hit rate gives a substantial amount more att than regular hit rate does  


A)No,because will depend on the class using it,for example if for some reason you used a Mag HR seal Acc on a Phy class (the Base HR which is Phy will most likely not even move) because it Mag HR 115 mag hr is more then the highest HR 112,but the 112 HR can be use by all/any class making it the more suited Acc to have(Plus it harder to get a Mag HR acc anyway,unless GM let you upgrade a 18/93 HR seal into 115 Mag HR which i doubt.

B)Well on Gosp video his 93x2+30x2+5 did not have any Intel/Mag Attack seals,while the Keron Mage Acc did.The Keron Acc only added 20 more Mag attack,while just adding a little mag HR (25).

now the question that comes into play is,does Gosp has any Gem on his gear,any intel gem?

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PostedMar 15, 2012 2:10 am
chaos1131 wrote:
A)No,because will depend on the class using it,for example if for some reason you used a Mag HR seal Acc on a Phy class (the Base HR which is Phy will most likely not even move) because it Mag HR 115 mag hr is more then the highest HR 112,but the 112 HR can be use by all/any class making it the more suited Acc to have(Plus it harder to get a Mag HR acc anyway,unless GM let you upgrade a 18/93 HR seal into 115 Mag HR which i doubt.

B)Well on Gosp video his 93x2+30x2+5 did not have any Intel/Mag Attack seals,while the Keron Mage Acc did.The Keron Acc only added 20 more Mag attack,while just adding a little mag HR (25).

now the question that comes into play is,does Gosp has any Gem on his gear,any intel gem?  

A) well clearly it is understood that it would be tested on a mag class. I think it goes without saying that a mag hr seal would have just about no effect on a physical class. kinda goes without saying

and I don't think that last bit would really matter, unless he changed his gear when he changed the acc

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PostedMar 15, 2012 5:29 pm
ok at least on a sorcerer magic hit rates seals do not affect magic attack or physical attack base values. As you can see I have posted before and after screen shots. The second screen shot is with 220 magic hit rate added with no other seals are on this ring but magic hit rate.






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