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calin80

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PostedFeb 22, 2012 1:06 pm

Haste with skill's NightShadow

Hello,
Haste 2 lv 2 no work with skill's NightShadow.
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gm_vandala

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PostedFeb 22, 2012 2:01 pm
Can you please provide evidence and details of this? Screenshots and/or videos are very helpful in tracking down these bugs.

wolf181

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PostedFeb 22, 2012 3:55 pm
Hi vandala,

with haste :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdDMVsoypQA&feature=youtu.be

without haste :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkDWFu2CWCg&feature=youtu.be

Same animation with haste or without haste .

Haste 2 lv 2 = Increases skill animation speed by 60%

Graut

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PostedFeb 22, 2012 4:13 pm
Ever thought that it might be on purpose?

There are other skills that aren't affected by Haste also, such as Arch Enemy and Party Heal.
Not only does NS get 100% cooldown earlier than other classes, they can also quite easily
spam their skills without worrying too much about mana cost, compared to say a wizard.
Also, those NS skills have plenty of effects on them, so adding all of this together, and then
make them able to speed it up with haste and you'd have quite a mess.

This is assuming that the recently added skill delay is a bug. Remove skill delay but don't
make NS skills get affected by haste and you'd have a powerful class, just like it was before
skill delay. Was NS in the need of a buff back then? Not at all.

chaos1131

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PostedFeb 22, 2012 4:50 pm
as a witch i actually see a little faster animation movement from the character stand point.

but your skills look the same.have you tried death blow?because NS at least on T server skills are faster with Haste2 just not the ones that seem to be effected by the delay method.

jaretlafoudre

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PostedFeb 23, 2012 7:41 am
Small test in video with my NS :

100% cast, without haste :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLdAmIoI2cA

with haste 2 lvl 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzWuBQAX7EQ

In both case it take 140s to fire 100 deadly light. IF haste 2 lvl worked properly, it should take 54s...

With haste, we can see the animation is faster, but the skill didn't fire after the animation, it fire after another animation cycle start, so it's impossible for NS to reduce the time between 2 attack skill, Deadly light can't be fired more than once every 1.4s

It's the case for EVERY NS attack skill, none of them work properly with haste.

gm_vandala

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PostedFeb 29, 2012 7:25 pm
I believe Erraticrat may know this, but I will bring it up to him again, to make sure developers know what's going on. Hopefully they'll implement a fix soon!

wolf181

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PostedFeb 29, 2012 8:08 pm
gm_vandala wrote:
I believe Erraticrat may know this, but I will bring it up to him again, to make sure developers know what's going on. Hopefully they'll implement a fix soon!  
Ty Smile

LadyAeris

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PostedMar 01, 2012 1:15 am
I agree with chaos, I too see the faster cast speed with haste2. guess its a witch thing ~.^

If I be waspish, best beware my sting.

Pimorez

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PostedMar 01, 2012 4:22 am
I think there's a different issue here.

The skill definitely is being cast faster with Haste then without haste, you can't deny that. HOWEVER, the actual 'blob' that does the damage only gets 'released' from the Night Shadows' hands the moment the skills would be finished WITHOUT Haste (Notice the final stance of the Night Shadow, it looks like that is the exact same stance as the last millisecond of the skill (when the 'blob' is being released)).

So basically, Haste DOES work, but it is bugged because the damage is not done until after casting it the normal way.

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