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ArtyD42

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PostedJan 28, 2012 5:43 pm   Last edited by ArtyD42 on Jan 28, 2012 6:33 pm. Edited 2 times in total

Fuzzy Math Friedrich style

Something doesn't add up here...
Yea, I lost a battle. Lets get that outta the way now. Lets see if anyone else can make sense of this.

Friedrich skills were as follows:
Advanced War Phalanx skill: Increase infantry offense by 30%
Intermediate Commanding skill: Increase fighting capacity by 10%
Advanced Infantry skill: Increase the fighting capacity of all infantry units by 15%
Advanced Attack skill: Increase a heroes attack by level *10
His level was 103.
His attack was 5524.

The math should be as follows:
Attack of a hero gives 0.1% bonus per point.
552.4%
Level skill increases this by 103%.
655.4%
Advanced Infantry gives 15%
670.4%
Commanding gives 10%
680.4%
Advanced War Phalanx adds 30% to this.
710.4%
This is all I can figure out from the war report.

From the playback I found the following:
Gladiators have a 75 attack. The bonus this hero gave them is 882. This is a 1176% increase in offense. Somehow this hero is getting 465.6% bonus from nowhere.

It could account for Some of this from the gold colored warlords set bonus, the hercules vip back item, the +4 from the spiked medal, the +6 from the helmet, or the +7 from the ring. But 400%+? That would be an unaccounted for 4656 attack bonus. From what I have personally seen all these attack bonuses are added to your hero from equipment directly.

Methinks we have a high end game bug.

Fixing math: details incorrect, hero's attack was 5224, not 5524.
This adjusts the math down to being (headdesk edit) 668.4. 507.6 unaccounted for.

I'm not perfect, I make mistakes, and I'll admit to them... sadly this mistake of mine made it worse of an unaccounted for bonus.

Edit3: I don't think I'm doing so well today. Double checking my post for exacts makes me a little tired...

Battle Report requested by gmdredd. The Friedrich is on page 2 leading 100k+ gladiators. Round 11 is where the details of the attack bonus is.

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PostedJan 28, 2012 6:23 pm

sigh

Just cause you don't understand how things stack, doesn't mean there is a bug.
And I'm not fond of being called an exploiter...

ArtyD42

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PostedJan 28, 2012 6:32 pm

Re: sigh

Seamoo wrote:
Just cause you don't understand how things stack, doesn't mean there is a bug.
And I'm not fond of being called an exploiter...  


I never called you an exploiter in that entire post. I am confused on how this is working and am trying to make it clear.

Either things are NOT stacking right or we have a bug.

Even with 150% bonus from sire skills we're still left with your equipment somehow managing to bring in 357.6% attack bonus. If I subtract 100% from this as the units default we still have 257.6% attack bonus somewhere in here.

Clarify please if you wish. I gave you this link so you could add more details on why it isn't a bug thru game mail.

Does the Hercules' Barbed Back (VIP) give you 100% bonus or more?
Does the 6 set bonus for your Warlord's set give you 200%?
Is it applying 100% for 3 set bonus twice due to you having 6 pieces?

Make this less broken please. I would prefer it to be known not broken than have this come up as a bug.

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PostedJan 28, 2012 11:10 pm

Re: sigh

Seamoo wrote:
Just cause you don't understand how things stack, doesn't mean there is a bug.
And I'm not fond of being called an exploiter...  


Seamoo if that is all you could come away with from ArtyD42 post, makes me wonder why.

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PostedJan 29, 2012 11:34 am

Re: sigh

ArtyD42 wrote:
Seamoo wrote:
Just cause you don't understand how things stack, doesn't mean there is a bug.
And I'm not fond of being called an exploiter...  


I never called you an exploiter in that entire post. I am confused on how this is working and am trying to make it clear.

Either things are NOT stacking right or we have a bug.

Even with 150% bonus from sire skills we're still left with your equipment somehow managing to bring in 357.6% attack bonus. If I subtract 100% from this as the units default we still have 257.6% attack bonus somewhere in here.

Clarify please if you wish. I gave you this link so you could add more details on why it isn't a bug thru game mail.

Does the Hercules' Barbed Back (VIP) give you 100% bonus or more?
Does the 6 set bonus for your Warlord's set give you 200%?
Is it applying 100% for 3 set bonus twice due to you having 6 pieces?

Make this less broken please. I would prefer it to be known not broken than have this come up as a bug.  


Hero Talent wasnt Factored into the formula.

ArtyD42

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PostedJan 29, 2012 7:54 pm

Re: sigh

Lightlord01 wrote:
Hero Talent wasnt Factored into the formula.  


Hero talent is the first things listed.

Advanced War Phalanx skill for 30%, Intermediate commanding skill for 10%, Advanced Infantry skill for 15%, and Advanced Attack Skill for level*10 all counted up added together, and totaled.

Level 103 means he got 1030 attack.
Listed attack was 5224.
Totaled this gives 6254.
625.4% attack bonus.
Add the benefits of 30%, 10% and 15% together you get 55%.
680.4% attack bonus.
If sire skill is maxed out we have 150% from that.
830.4%.

Can't tell you what the bonus is for having 6 of that set. I still don't see any reason behind it. Do you? 1176% -830.4% = 345.6%. Simple math tells me this is not working.

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PostedJan 29, 2012 11:55 pm

Re: sigh

ArtyD42 wrote:
Lightlord01 wrote:
Hero Talent wasnt Factored into the formula.  


Hero talent is the first things listed.

Advanced War Phalanx skill for 30%, Intermediate commanding skill for 10%, Advanced Infantry skill for 15%, and Advanced Attack Skill for level*10 all counted up added together, and totaled.

Level 103 means he got 1030 attack.
Listed attack was 5224.
Totaled this gives 6254.
625.4% attack bonus.
Add the benefits of 30%, 10% and 15% together you get 55%.
680.4% attack bonus.
If sire skill is maxed out we have 150% from that.
830.4%.

Can't tell you what the bonus is for having 6 of that set. I still don't see any reason behind it. Do you? 1176% -830.4% = 345.6%. Simple math tells me this is not working.  



Hero Talent is not listed. 4419

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