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Jakeuh

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PostedJan 10, 2012 3:56 am
Good news Very Happy

And what about the heroic trait you choose?


Sanctum or crackshot maybe? Smile
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PostedJan 10, 2012 5:44 am
Jakeuh wrote:
Good news Very Happy

And what about the heroic trait you choose?


Sanctum or crackshot maybe? Smile  


Regarding going hybrid for Clerics towards DPS and healing, you should determine based on your needs and uses on how you want to build it. A high m-crit rate is obviously a must for both paths, but if you only want to heal for trials, then you should aim for 80-100% m-crit rate, 3.00 m-crit damage, and the rest you'd focus on INT if you have the means. Healing for trials don't require insane heals, and decent cast speed (70%+), wis proc accessories, and high m-crit rate should get it done just fine.

If you find you'll want to heal for TW as well, then luck/wis is obviously the way to go.

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PostedJan 10, 2012 7:35 am
Nice Smile Ty very much . My point was just to be able to heal trials . Obviously i just want to do my job at pve while kicking *** at pvp .

So i'll take crackshot and focus on int mostly at least for leveling . At the level cap i'll see if i need more healing power or not Smile

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PostedJan 10, 2012 1:51 pm
Jakeuh wrote:
Good news Very Happy

And what about the heroic trait you choose?


Sanctum or crackshot maybe? Smile  

I chose Crack Shot. More Luck and Mcrit DMG for me.

Emulcification wrote:
Regarding going hybrid for Clerics towards DPS and healing, you should determine based on your needs and uses on how you want to build it. A high m-crit rate is obviously a must for both paths, but if you only want to heal for trials, then you should aim for 80-100% m-crit rate, 3.00 m-crit damage, and the rest you'd focus on INT if you have the means. Healing for trials don't require insane heals, and decent cast speed (70%+), wis proc accessories, and high m-crit rate should get it done just fine.

If you find you'll want to heal for TW as well, then luck/wis is obviously the way to go.  

Like I've said before, DO NOT focus on INT. INT itself is about 1 INT = 6.1 MATK, which adds up but not worth the time when other stats are far more important.

Most of your MATK comes from the gears that provide you with some basic INT (and/or MATK set bonus) AND weapon.

If you put your mouse over the MATK stat, you'll notice that most of it comes from the second value, which is your weapon. A +10 weapon is really going to make a huge difference in your matk.
 
Let's put this into a real application.

EX: Going from a +10 Primal (level 50) to +10 Sami (level 60) gave me about 4.3k more MATK.

Going off that, 4300 MATK / 6.1 MATK per 1 INT = 704 INT.
Do you really think it's possible to gain 704 INT for that kind of MATK? Most likely not.
You'll probably need 1.1k INT or some crazy high value. The highest I've seen someone have is like 850 INT.  

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PostedJan 10, 2012 5:30 pm
@Jakeuh: I'm not going to explain to you or the guy above why you would want to focus on INT at a certain stage in gearing for DPS. Go ahead and read my Magician guide for reasons as to why.

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PostedJan 11, 2012 7:29 am
I have heard 2 different opinions , i will just choose by testing both (it won't be difficult to see the difference i guess) , even if lil has a pretty cute picture Very Happy

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PostedJan 13, 2012 7:52 am
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plz post some screenshots with stats of your mcrit cleric in trial as healer, full buffed and with all procs, with your total cast speed, % of mcrit rate and with your 8-20k heals.

Usually how much your heals recover hp?

Can you solo heal, for example, in full Veninfang trial with him?

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PostedJan 15, 2012 4:25 pm
"The main reason Clerics are much better healers than Shamans is because they have much more access to equipments and accessories that give a substantial boost to either of the two attributes."



I'm just curious, what equips are so great that it makes Shaman totally pale in comparison to Clerics? As far as I can see, only the weapons make a difference due to passives.

You've quelled the rumor that Shamans are far superior in speed, but what about the Wisdom business? I'm hesitant to believe that a well-geared Shaman heals only half of what a Cleric can. They basically have the same amount of Wisdom if geared similarly, and can't you farm a staff that has high Wisdom, Cast Speed, etc? (actually, those are pretty much the only stats I get on my Staves and Daggers from drops)

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PostedJan 16, 2012 10:03 pm
Passives-weapon relations
Shaman: 10% more cast spd with Staff, and an staff=m crit rate and dmg, in general, plus double hit, m crit, etc procs
Cleric: 10% more cast spd with mace=m crit rate (but just in the dps ones), wis, and some defense or lowering resist
For shaman, u can put knownledge in case u want even more wis, but tbh, no need to waste points on it, having all the rest of gear is enough.
As a player stated before, they have different play styles, so they aren't really comparable even being in same branch, at least for me.
So, the 2 are equally good, depends more of how u gear and play them.
This chat reminded me to something that happened with a player in EE ES forum recently, the guy thinks thief is the best class ever... but no class is the best, all are pretty balanced and depend of who, how and with wich gear is using them

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