Vlindchi wrote:

They Aren't easy at all xD

that applies to the main classes...

for other subclasses:

they are insane xD

Subclasses pretty much cant kill them, although I can only speak for Elementalist

My equipment is +26 and it takes ages to take down a Norg for example.

Not to mention my 6k HP are not even enough to withstand half a hit of a Norg loooool

check the last few seconds of this video

loool... atm i have 5.8k hp.. as a 165 ELE -.- ima fix this 0_0 soon i hope lool.... anyways... ya atm thr is no way i could solo or even be helpful killing it atm anyways lool,but thinks to this im only lost on 1 area the gloves ill be using -.- since i am not 100% sure as to when & how & 2 gain the 170x 30-40% mp consumption gloves.. id like them.. idk were thr at lool.. or when if thr form Q how 2 gain them -.-!

btw Lapis i do think the 173 fallarm will be exstreamly nice +21-27 wep cuz math kinda really makes all the 165 weps look bad.. -.- if i am correct idk tho =o but would be the prob.. of getting there.. as i do see the point in why make a 173+25/+27 wep when u have a 165+25/+27 wep....... altho i think ill make my 40% cd +21 when i can afford to then ill wait around lool.. -.- & see =o Why i slowly rebuild my Ele

I can't kill him neither as Cleric.

=O well.. i kinda didnt figure you can atleast atm.. lool.. -_- im still tring to rebuild atm to get myself able to lvl & solo chapel like LAPIS!!!!!!! >_< ill pk u ! =o loool.. -.- jk i wouldnt pk anymore even if i wanted to lool.. the price for doing so.. if exstreamly crippling.. anyways.. MegaB/Vlindchii gotta Q for u =o wht + wep u is using & wht atk pwr u has 0_0 just abit curious lool..!

173 wep attack is good its like 10 attack points less than 165 wiz staff... It seems pretty good to upgrade, But the thing is from 165-173 it will take some time and money ofc lol but is it still worth to upgrade 165 wep ? ( 165 ele wep got like 1k base attack ? )

Just want an adivice on what you think here..

I was calcualting with rince's Upgrade spreadhseet. With 157+23 wep 40 % mp red. i will get about 6,5-6,7k magic attack when equiped. Add guild attack buffs and few attack pots, i think i can get like 9k magic attack..

Now what i was thinking is that Chain loghtning has 9 secs cooldown ,Atm i have 60% cast , and chain lightning gets 3 secs cooldown, If i skip out the 165 cast wep i can stil get 80% cast which means 1 sec cooldown on Chain(could one of you confirm on this)?

After 164 i think the best skill to use while grinding is going to be Veteran + Chain lightning , provided if we can survive tanking there. Perhaps lapis if you can, please make a video of using veteran and spamming chain at dragons? I am so confused about what set will be best to use and what wepon to upgrade lol.. Dont want to spend too much when i know no one is going to buy the wep.

Also what you guys think will be better - extra hp of crafted set? or extra def from raid set?

Cadir wrote:

165 ele wep got like 1k base attack ? )

the 165 CD wep is 1013 base atk mine atm is +15 i have 3683 mag atk pwr atm*without GEMS AT ALL ON WEP ATM* (& currently not maxxed on many skills & fallarm mastery is lvl 1 only atm -.- im poor.. ok.. altho most of the good skills are maxxed thats needed somewhat lool.. but anyways after I FIX my hp abit -.- as seen in SS I should be all good soon I hope lool -.-

Cadir wrote:

Now what i was thinking is that Chain loghtning has 9 secs cooldown ,Atm i have 60% cast , and chain lightning gets 3 secs cooldown, If i skip out the 165 cast wep i can stil get 80% cast which means 1 sec cooldown on Chain(could one of you confirm on this)?

yes 80% cd = Chain Lighting 1sec cd & its nice also (90% = 0sec cd) oddly there is a DIFS with 100% & 90% with no cd & 0sec cd lool.. -.- truefully... id say ud prob go with a 165 cd wep.. cuz.. ud C a big dmg difs.. atleast on ur rate of killing.. & all ur other skills that r 30secs will be 12secs with 80% on aswell.

Truefully.. i only plan to make my 165 fallarm +21 only & hope i can build my ele good enough soon to grind out to 173 or however long it takes & id get the 173 wep +23-27 if i can afford so... IF -.- lool.. the dmg difs with any 165+27 fallarm to a 173+27 fallam is around 3-4k dmg difs & this isnt even with Gems if any or if ur Intel built... as ud prob think 99.9% ele r Con lool & so am I as i have little hp -.- but i want the 173 fallarm +21-27 with 100% aswell is my idea IF I ever get there loool =( anyways hope that helps & heres a SS for u to show u 1sec with 80% on *wep is SoL Chaotic Light *snare skill wep* on atm.. ok i find it usefull for arena lool.. sometimes 0_0

Just confirming - We cannot perma spam chain at 90% cd even if the skill refresh time is 0 ? I hoped i cud perma spam it :/

Thanks for the ss JT

well.. u can Technically spam the skill at 1/0 sec cd... but without 100% ud C alil difs in this.. its abit odd 2 me attually or it might just be me.. cuz truefully i sold my old 30% cd helm awhile bk in hope to gain a 156 cd helm... i rethought bout it since i was temp retiring my ele at time time.. so i used 40%wep/shirt 20%/30% pants = 90% cd lool.. chain Lighting 0 sec cd..

idk though truefully it might be my prospective on the matter as I see/feel a delay compared to 100% cd lool but ill say this i <3 lvl 8 chain Lighting lool, also.. go with a 165 skill wep if u are not willing for 100% cd... i wanted to do a 165 skill wep.. i didnt.. the cd at 12sec on all skills was ... unwanting.. -.- btw 6sec cd on all skills when u have 90% for Summon/Thunder/Stone... lool...

& now i have 5k atk pwr with wep none potted

i was givn my 173 fallarm i had a friend of mine put it on so i can see it =) i like it attually thats just me.. lool =) Sry Rai for showing u showing it off lool

Cadir wrote:

Just want an adivice on what you think here.. After 164 i think the best skill to use while grinding is going to be Veteran + Chain lightning , provided if we can survive tanking there. Perhaps lapis if you can, please make a video of using veteran and spamming chain at dragons? I am so confused about what set will be best to use and what wepon to upgrade lol.. Dont want to spend too much when i know no one is going to buy the wep.

well i cant make Vids.. so.. -.- but u prob can if u kno wht ur doing... altho u might still die lool.. -.- ill show u SS altho.. this is 166 dragons still do 2k+ ech hit -.- they hurt -.-

& b4 any1 says anything this is a normal party >_> ok & that is a witch used for haste2 im in love with haste2 for a Ele <3333333333333 0_0 so look carefully b4 any1 that looks says something about her lvl & shes in radar im still gettn 1.3b a kill with her there >_< altho.. i have 2 run.. sometimes.. so.. i get in her radar n i lose xp cuz of it, normally its 1.6b-1.9b ussally i get if i dont run 2 her radar besides for the haste2 <333

I <3 this HP 0_0 loool.... its Insane 0_0 & I can get higher too 0_0 Looks for WM+a item i have hehehe if i do ill SS that 2 0_0 ima love tht lool >=)

EDITED- another SS 0_0 this is the MAX HP I CAN GET ATM -.- didnt find a WM -.- CURSE THEM loool.... -_-

Cadir wrote:

Also what you guys think will be better - extra hp of crafted set? or extra def from raid set?

Id say truefully... I WANT the crafted for hp altho.. I might only go with the Boots crafted nothing more IF i hit 173.. -_- -.- but i have my armor idea set up for when i hit 172 lool but want 173 for 173 wep >=) ( I dont have any Crafted armor atm =( -.- but atm LVLING!)

I do like this HP atm i can hold makes me abit happy i have this hp take a look >=)