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Superman0X

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PostedDec 13, 2011 10:47 am   Last edited by Superman0X on Feb 09, 2012 11:48 am. Edited 4 times in total

AP loot wheel Returns

New Wheel! Bigger Prizes!
Available Now! The ULTRA brand new AP-Wheel of Fortune! Be quick, because the time is running short. Spin and win an incredible amount of Aeria Points!

For only 99 AP per round can you win the jackpot of 20 000AP!

Click here to win!

Good luck and remember, this promotion ends soon!

Notes:
AP spent in this loot wheel does not count toward the Tiered spender application.
To redeem your AP won, you must click on Redeem. AP not redeemed before the wheel is shutoff will not be available until it returns.

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warrior_700

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PostedDec 13, 2011 11:33 am
First.
99ap per spin, to LOOSE ap? idk, Superman, it sounds like a waste.
i mean in the Wheel theres 15 prizes.
9 of 15 = -24-89 AP lose.
1 of 15 = +1 ap Gain
1 of 15 = +101 ap Gain. chances are, u need to spin 1-5 times to land on the 200ap prize.
3 of 15 = +401-901 ap Gain.
1 of 15 = Jackpot = 19,901 ap Gain

now to give u the %'s [simple math]
so a close perspective shows: in a random draw of 15 ap prizes, theres a 6.66% chance or picking any of the prizes.

9 of 15 prizes = 59.64% chance of loosing 24-89ap
1 of 15 = 6.66% of gaining 1ap
1 of 15 = 6.66% of gaining 101ap
3 of 15 = 19.98% of gaining 401-901 ap
and
1 of 15 = 6.66% of hitting the jackpot.

NOW ----- ^^--- is based of simple math, and 100% random chances in getting 1 of 15 prizes.

everyone knows this is not the case and those are DEFINITELY NOT the chances.
here is how the chances are going to seem.

9 of 15 = 82%
1 of 15 = 10%
1 of 15 = 5%
3 of 15 = 2%
1 of 15 = 1%

as you can see, even though you have a 17% of winning and a 1% chance of becoming rich in AP, the House always Wins and you end of with a 95% of loosing.


so, once again, play at your own risk, these are the Basic Guessing %'s and are not at all Accurate.

just My2Cents

brad102

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PostedDec 13, 2011 11:43 am
I think 99AP is a bit to much.

Superman0X

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PostedDec 13, 2011 11:47 am
The desire was to try a new mix of price points and payouts based on the feedback given from prior wheels. We will monitor the results, and may change this up again in the near future.

warrior_700

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PostedDec 13, 2011 11:50 am
Superman0X wrote:
The desire was to try a new mix of price points and payouts based on the feedback given from prior wheels. We will monitor the results, and may change this up again in the near future.  

near Future, as in a Very Painfully Long Time? or Near Future as in next Year?

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PostedDec 13, 2011 12:08 pm
Somewhat surprised to see this horrible thing back yet again given all the negative feedback it gets every single time.

My advice would be just trash the project.

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OSUBeaver

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PostedDec 13, 2011 12:30 pm
Just for kicks and giggles I spun it 4 times:
- 10 AP
- 15 AP
- 45 AP
- 50 AP

So, I spent 396 AP to get back 130AP....a 266AP loss Sad

Certainly not a good enough sample size to assume anything about the playing population and winning percentages so I'll be curious about others' experiences.

I gambled. I lost.

Just plain Beaver now.

warrior_700

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PostedDec 13, 2011 12:49 pm
OSUBeaver wrote:
Just for kicks and giggles I spun it 4 times:
- 10 AP
- 15 AP
- 45 AP
- 50 AP

So, I spent 396 AP to get back 130AP....a 266AP loss Sad

Certainly not a good enough sample size to assume anything about the playing population and winning percentages so I'll be curious about others' experiences.

I gambled. I lost.  


you shoulda checked my Math ^^^^ up there first.

OSUBeaver

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PostedDec 13, 2011 12:52 pm
warrior_700 wrote:

you shoulda checked my Math ^^^^ up there first.  


I did. I also saw the disclaimer you added at the end.

We don't know the odds for sure, but with enough people posting their results we'll hone in on it better.

Just plain Beaver now.

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PostedDec 13, 2011 1:18 pm
OSUBeaver wrote:
Just for kicks and giggles I spun it 4 times:
- 10 AP
- 15 AP
- 45 AP
- 50 AP

So, I spent 396 AP to get back 130AP....a 266AP loss Sad

Certainly not a good enough sample size to assume anything about the playing population and winning percentages so I'll be curious about others' experiences.

I gambled. I lost.  


Yes I had a look at the new wheel and not too keen looking at lowest payouts, I was more inclined to have a flutter for fun on the old cheaper wheel. Too many very low in the loss category for me even if the top prizes are bigger. I agree with your suggestion. I would be interested to see how players do, both the negative and the positive.

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