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AworldOfChaos

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PostedNov 06, 2011 8:52 am

Weaken, Fatigue and Deter

Deter is imba?
I've been looking into these three pearls lately and I've noticed something, Weaken and Fatigue are completely useless in comparison to Deter.

Here are the descriptions of the pearls:

Weaken:

As we can see from the description, this reduces the opponents damage by a significant amount for two rounds. Keeping in mind that this only has effect on players and not boatyard mobs.

Fatigue:

As we can see from the description, this reduces the amount of physical the opponent can use by a significant amount.

Deter:

As we can see from the description, this prevents the opponent from using any kind of buff at all for two rounds(besides teleport) making it better than the other two.

Shouldn't every pearl have its own unique advantage? Where is the advantage of Weaken and Fatigue when Deter can do the same yet a better job.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I see, Weaken and Fatigue are completely useless pearls when you have a pearl like Deter and I can't see any advantages which they may have over deter. So I'm either assuming the dev's made some sort of mistake with these pearls, or they just got lazy when it came to Weaken and Fatigue and didn't think it through properly.

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Ryan_Osmond

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PostedNov 06, 2011 9:20 am
ya but deter make the enemy didnt use any physical excpt the teleport and normal atk itself (so by turn it will be over faster than the other 2, obviously)

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PostedNov 06, 2011 9:39 am
Ryan_Osmond wrote:
ya but deter make the enemy didnt use any physical excpt the teleport and normal atk itself (so by turn it will be over faster than the other 2, obviously)  



A person who is under weaken or fatigue can also choose not to use any physical by passing their turn, infact they can use ice on the opponent so the effect goes away, with deter you can't use ice. You've just helped me prove how imba Deter is. Even in a situation of a 2v2, missing two turns is costly, even if you pass.

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PostedNov 06, 2011 11:25 am
1. ya thats in case if u hv any ice left, u cant assume ull always hv ice right

2. ofc it will be useless if ur just keep passing lol, but just think, if u wanna use the same physical, ull see when u get detered, u can still MOVE with all physical, and attaking with NORMAL damage, buf if u get weakened, if u want to get the same physical, ofc ur damage will be lower coz of that and if u get fatigued u cant move with all physical

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PostedNov 06, 2011 11:57 am
I understand the point you're trying to make. I'd already thought about that beforehand. Yes those are advantages which you mentioned about Fatigue and Weaken, however small they may be, but to me they are really insignificant in comparison to Deter.

Think of it realistically, not being able to move a centimetre more isn't going to change the game results is it? If you really had to move out of danger you would just use teleport, of course this is in the case of Fatigue.

Weaken, yes your damage will be less, in the case of a lv3 pearl 30% less. Lets say you did 700 damage with no buffs, 30% of 700 is 210 leaving you with 490, once again, not going to change the game results really is it?

I still think Deter is imba and these pearls need to be revamped. If only this was the only issue with pearls, there are plenty of false descriptions for pearls in-game which seriously really need to be fixed, it's extremely misleading.

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PostedNov 07, 2011 11:23 am
ya i agree but if its like that then no need to bother with all of the offence pearl excpt repeat lv3 or even better slv3 (i already thought of that since the beginning, there should be no repeat!)

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PostedSep 04, 2012 12:36 am

in my opinion..

Moving a centimeter can turn the tides of a game most of the time bcoz u can move to an area thats even harder for the enemy to hit u, that can also result for u to have a chance to heal up..

Weaken- Disrupts ur damage dramatically, like when ur almost dead with 1 pow this can save ur *** bcoz of 30% damage reduction.( Really great pearl for someone who have a build with low defense. Tried and tested)

Fatigue-A better version of weaken because with 70 less physical u can only use +1 assault with 10% or 20% if u have 600+ agi but on the otherhand weaken can still use dig, With this u cant dig when ur on the moment of winning via dig.

Deter- Can be tricky sometimes because when someone got detered; He cant use any physical so he just needs to fly or move to a hard spot to hit until deter has worn off, while u using full buffs to hit the opponent whose hiding to a spot that's really hard for u to hit him, resulting for u to miss and him to have his double turn. Either u will have the time to heal yourself while the detered enemy can only normal hit or fly.

In conclusion all 3 pearls have its own advantage that fits to some situations.

Sorry for my bad english, but I hope I stated my point clearly.
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