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PostedAug 30, 2011 9:42 pm   Last edited by jm2900 on Mar 21, 2013 9:21 am. Edited 21 times in total

Blade Dancer guide (Updating)

Guide for all you Blade Dancers out there
3 reasons i made this thread:

1. BD PRIDE

2.cuz theres no BD guide out there

3. to help you BDs -in- training

=======================Requirements=======================

----------------Ingame requirements ------------------
Lv 45 Bard
Lv 50 Character

----------------Real life requirements (optional, but highly recommended)-----------

- Strong PC ( You know it's strong when you can switch to High priority settings w/o lagging )


Note: If you're going to be a pro BD then you got to have a strong PC, since you'll pull 10 ~ 25 mobs at once and then AoE at least 60% of them at once. And that's quite a few entities, and animation computation.




=======================Passives===========================

Gymnast : +5% move speed

Comment: [in a dungeon] /Blade dancer 1 dies /Martial Artist Dies. Both revive at the same time. Blade Dancer: See you at tha boss suckah. /runs off

Sword Expert: +10% (M and P)-ATK

Comment: nothing to see here

BDs use LIGHT ARMOR
===========================Pros and Cons=============================
Dungeons: The best you can have since you Aoe the [10 ~ 25 ] mobs

PvE: May take time to group mobs if they are spread out thinly across a vast area, you might take quite a bit of damage while doing so ( not the case with high evasion rate ), but after that, that's what people like from you: AoEing the crap out of huge groups of mobs.

PvP / Territory Wars/ Arena : The more opponents the better, otherwise you're not bringing out the full potential of your AoE skills. They're better in 5 vs 5+ rather than 3 vs 3. Another thing to note is, a BD is a bit useless by itself in PvP / Territory Wars / Arena. The reason is: you're dealing with people with a brain, not (dumb) mobs that follow a generic AI. Opponents tend to space out a lot, so most of the time, you're just 1v1-ing somebody, which is what you are NOT supposed to do. You would want to die within 8 seconds to do Fury Hit Blade Dance Fury Hit on at least 3 / 5 / 10 of them (depending on amount of opponents), rather than spamming random skills to kill 1 person (you might survive another 5 seconds, but the amount of damage dealt is miniscule compared to multiple at once). How do you group them together? Thats why I said they are a bit useless by themselves. The REAL way to PvP / Territory Wars / Arena is to get your each of your allies to cooperate to lure each opponent (yes, you have to lure one too) into one spot and then... you know what to do (AoE the crap out of them); (in the case of PvP with more than 2 people, temporarily team up with someone (if you can), and then after your done, kill that person (he might take some damage from your AoE while fighting with you), sneaky, but it works, but if you can't team up or if its just a 1v1, then try your best). But the problem is, people enjoy bashing BDs more than cooperating, and then once they've done bashing, they d/c, so you can ignore my tactic for PvP / Territory Wars / Arena, unless you are really, really lucky and find a cooperative, understanding person, actually no, people then you might be able to win. Plan B is: Get uber godly gear / trophy / everything and then just wreck havoc. But 99.9^- of people cannot afford it so, forget about it. Plan C: hope that someone d/cs / theres some noob (opponent ofc). Tip: turn on Magic Samba, its one of the few cases where its actually, and significantly, useful.

Bossing: There are other classes that are better like MA, Thief, Hunter, Engi ect. BDs aren't really meant for bossing. BUT, if the boss does summon things then people will beg you save their lives. If not then just switch to another type of DPS. If you don't have another type of DPS then switch to Bard ( since it is a requirement for BD ) and ask one of your healers to go DPS. I highly suggest you have another type of DPS.



=========================================================

==============Races and Racial Skills============================

List of Races from best to worst for BD:

Best Race: Zumi
Worst Race: Halfkin

Zumi:
Injection: +ATK & 100% Double Hit Rate for 15 secs.
Comments: More damage & twice as many hits? I'll take it.

Flash Step: Teleport to somewhere 100 feet around you, aggro all the mobs on the way, and then some +AGI bonus.
Comments: Teleportation is definitely nice. Aggroing mobs depends on the situation, if you're training or going somewhere. The AGI bonus is definitely helpful, the one thing we all hate is getting damage as soon as we get to somewhere. If you're damage is high enough, you could kill all the mobs as soon as the buff runs out. You could also just teleport directly at where you're standing just for the bonus.

======================Section 1: Builds============================

Build 1

Pure Evasionist (Most Reccomended)
KP:
Advanced Spin : 15
Yoga : 10
Misc.:
Water Symboism
your best +AGI Title like Vowkeeper
Shadow Lacerater (lv 50 yellow dagger from Ulta Hall Trial, Kenny)
AGI trophies

after that if you're well funded get some AGI lv 2 gems eternal chisels then socket them into your sword. (and dagger)

Build 2:

Pure Crit Build (its OK if you can get your crit rate up to round 60% 80%)

Advanced Steps: 15
Rising Star : 10
Sword Dance : 10

Secret Claw Set

Fire Symboism

Delphi/ Blackflame dungeon trophies

Build 3

Balancer (OK)

Advanced Spin: 10 (evasion)
Advanced Steps 10 (crit)
Art of the Sword : 5 (dmg)
Firebird Dance:5 (for Tango)
Tango:1 (heal)
(Ucwatididthar?)

Blood Knife set

Water symboism

Any trophy you want


==========================WEAPONS========================

Finally glad im done with builds, was getting tired and sick of it.



Swords (in order of most recommended)

1.Horrible Nighmare (Trial: Ulta Hall , Tiamat)
2.Steel warlord ( One - Eyed Taen/Roger, Trial Vile Shark HQ)
3. Horrible Dream (lv 50 orange crafted sword
4.Imperial Guard (lv 50 crafted sword)
5.random white/green/blue lv 50 sword
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Off-Hand

Shadow Lacerater (Evasionist)
Skull Cutter / WIld Arrogance (Crit build)
any yellow club (rofl)

=========================Skills=========================

---------------------Skill maxing list ---------------------------
1 being the first skill you should max and then so on:

1. Blade Dance
2. Firebird Dance
3. Slow Dance
4. Superstar
5. Dance of War
6. Flashy Charm
7. Seduce
8. Magic Samba
9. Song of patience

---------------------------------Class Skills---------------------------

Lv 5
Superstar
+ XXXX amount of P-ATK and hits a single target 2 times
Comments:fairly useful when waiting for Blade Dance / Fury Hit to cooldown, keep it maxed

Lv 10
Song of patience
Reduces P DMG by XX pts for 30 seconds
Comments: Level it . Saves your life. Damage reduction goes up by 1 point every level.
Interesting fact: The buff lasts 30 seconds, the cooldown is 30 seconds. We can say that this skill has no cooldown and will passively decrease enemy damage by XX points with the cost of XXX MP every 30 seconds.

Lv 15
Blade Dance (Dancing Blade as of new update):
Deals 3 hits to all nearby targets within 15 feet. Each hit does less damage than the last. Damage enhanced under Spirited Melody.
Comments: This is your main AoE skill. Always keep it maxed

Lv 20
Magic Samba:
Reduces M-DMG by XX(X) pts. reflects 30% back to attacker
Comments: Level it. Becareful, it can kill you or save u. It will damage you if the boss has damage reflect / insta kill when you hit it buffs

Lv 25
Dance of war:
Increases Crit rt. and ATK SPD by XXX points
Comments: A must for any BD especially EVA build BDs

Lv 30
Seduce:
Charms an enemy to attack another enemy nearby.Reduces all P-DMG taken by 50%
comments: It's only good if it's the same level as your level. Otherwise don't bother.

Lv40
Flashy Charm:
reduces ACC and EVA of all enemys within 15 ft.
Comments: Level it, helps your party + you. Sucks at lower levels.

Lv50
Slow Dance :
Recovers XXX amount of HP a second for 12 secs. effect does NOT end when attacking
Comments:Worship it, use it, ect. level, hot key and use it like Blade Dance

Lv 60
Firebird Dance:
Hits target 1 time with alot of dmg. takes double damage when target has buring metal on them.
Comment: A MUST for the FHBDFD Combo. Even better if you can find a cooperative bard.

--------------------- Common skills worth mentioning (and investing gold into) ------------------------

Fury Hit:
Increases P. ATT by XXXX points and hits all enemies within 10 feet once, slowing their Cast Speed and Movement Speed by 30%.
Comments: Quick cooldown, AoE, Slows enemies down, a must for any Blade Dancer.

Sonic Cut (Resonating Blow as of new update):
Deals XXX damage every second for 12 seconds, stacks up to 5 times
Comments: A must for bossing, don't try to use it on normal enemies because it's not worth your time stacking it up 5 times. Stack it 5 times on bosses and when it's about to run out ( blinking skill icon under boss ) then use the skill again to keep it active, this will NOT reset the stack to 1.

Quick Shadow:
Increases EVA by XXX points for 15 seconds.
Comments: Use this before grouping up mobs ( especially dungeons ) that 10% EVA rate (170 EVA points) bonus at lv 40 is crucial to surviving

===============================Certs========================

I thought the wall of text was boring so ya

[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/evacerts.png/[/img]


============================Accessories & back=====================


Capes:

Since all capes suck use Rainbow Cloak from Golden Plains fame chest

Accesories


Ring 1:

Polar Sunset ring (DUH)

Ring 2:

Wolf Howl ring (delphi fame chest) (evasionist)

Sadness ring (Crit build)

Balance Build - Any of the above rings

==================Combos===========================

Combos are specific attack patterns to avoid any unnecessary skill cooldowns. You are supposed to repeat the combo until the mob / boss dies.

Mobbing:

Lv 50: FH BD FH Ss BD (FHBDFHSsBD)

Stands for: Fury Hit, Blade Dance, Fury Hit, Shootingstar, Blade Dance

Notes: There is a slight 0.3 seconds cooldown for Fury Hit after the first Blade Dance, the same goes for the second Blade Dance. May take 0.5 secs to redo the combo



Lv 60: FbD FH BD FH Ss BD (FbDFHBDFHSsBD)

Stands for: Firebird Dance, Fury Hit, Shootingstar, Blade Dance

Notes: It's pretty much a no-cooldown unless you're lagging. Not to mention the awsome burst of damage Firebird Dance deals at the beginning



Bossing:

Lv 50: Ss FH BD FH Ss BD (SsFHBDFHSsBD)

Stands for: Shootingstar, Fury Hit, Blade Dance, Fury Hit, Shootingstar, Blade Dance

Notes: Shootingstar won't hurt since you're 1v1 when bossing. Shooting star does quick, decent damage, and hits twice. Not only that but it gives time for skills like Blade Dance to cooldown

Lv 60: FbD Ss FH BD FH Ss BD (FbDSsFHBDFHSsBD)

Stands for: Firebird Dance, Shootingstar, Fury Hit, Blade Dance, Fury Hit, Shootingstar, Blade Dance

Notes: Pretty much the Lv 50 combo with Firebird Dance at the beginning since it needs a decent amount of cooldown time





===================Tips=============================

PvE tips:

- Use any of the Mobbing combos listed in the =Combos= section

- Know how much damage your enemy does

- As a Blade Dancer you are expected to group things up around you and AoE the Hard out of them

- Before attempting to AoE large groups of mobs (4+) make sure you have full health

- Before you are about to AoE mobs, turn on Slow Dance

- Slowly test how many mobs you can AoE at once, one by one, start by AoEing 3 at a time

- Turn on Dance of war and Song of Patience when you can

- If you think you're going to die (60% hp left), use Flashy Charm



Dungeon Tips:

- High EVA ( 80%+ ) will make you a great replacement for tanks when they die

- If the boss doesn't have a damage reflect buff OR Instant kill buff then use Magic Samba, otherwise if you're sure you can time when you need to cancel Magic Samba ( via Right Click on the buff ) then go ahead

- Do use Superstar on bosses


- Make sure that no one attacks while you are tanking ( since you can't aggro them )

- Use the SsFHBDFHSsBD combo or FbDSsFHBDFHSsBD combo



Map Boss tips:

- Have high EVA ( 90%+ ) and pray to God you won't die

- Keep calm and do the SsFHBDFB combo properly

- Use the SsFHBDFHSsBD combo or FbDSsFHBDFHSsBD combo

- You will most likely not be able to solo it, so get like 30 people or so

- You actually might be able to do something helpful for the group if the boss summons minions

- If you die, that's fine, because you're (kind of) supposed to, and don't feel bad because you're likeliness of dying is just about the same as everyone else

- You really don't wanna use Magic Samba. It's just... counterproductive, even if you're really good at canceling it at the right time (*use samba* *boss turns on damage reflect / insta kill* *cancels samba* *boss turns off reflect / InstaKO* *turns on samba again* *boss turns on buffs again* BD:#*()@#*()@) and it goes on FOREVER

=======================Extra Stuff=========================

Evasionist: Minimum Evasion: 50% recommended: 75%+

Crit: Minimum crit % : 50% recommended: 70%+. Average Crit dmg : +60%



=========================Credits=========================


Me



==================Distribution=========================



You may distribute for educational purposes on these conditions:

a) give the correct source ( this page aka http://www.aeriagames.com/forums/en/viewtopic.php?t=1340521 )

and

b) give credit to me ( jm2900 )

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VonLoewe

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PostedSep 02, 2011 4:05 pm
You forgot accessories/capes, etc You should also list and describe each class talent... Also you might want to update this with the new level 55 equips. Nice, but I disagree with somethings. Flashy Charm for example, is pretty useful for the evasion build. Song of Patience also, though it may seem useless at first, is actually quite useful for the evasionist; having a 100 damage reduction when you're getting hit multiple times quickly builds up into a significant difference. It helps your Slow Dance + P.S./F.D.R. healing a lot.

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PostedSep 07, 2011 4:08 pm
Very nice guide even though there are a few things I disagree with. Some of of those need to be stated whether its for PvP or PvE as well because certain abilities prove FAR more useful depending on the situation.

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PostedSep 26, 2011 10:24 pm
Nice guide. Going to add to the discussion 8D
I chose a variant of the Balance build listed (added Inspirational Dance/Radiance Dance, only 2 points but quite useful).

My gear/trophy goals are:

Main Hand: Flaming Arm Blade (for Luck Bonus)
Off Hand: Dream of Glory (I chose this for the higher base attack, sucks it doesnt have Horrible Nightmare's effect....)
*Side note. I wished BD didn't require 1h BLADED weapons...else I would have packed Freezing arm blade (I'm technically still a "Blade" Dancer xD)

Armor: White Wolf Set (Chose for Double hit effect, waiting until Vainglorious is out...I heard it's not yet..)

Cape/Necklace: Whirlpool cape and Ripple necklace (Triple Hit is awesome, especially when critting often)

Rings: Magnetic Ring (awesome for crit builds) and Sadness ring (need some kind of 2x proc 8D)

Trophies: Bio Experiment Log and Quaides Nine Disciplines (since I aim for a crit build, the more the merrier).

Currently, Im able to obtain 52% crit rate (magnetic ring + flaming blade + dance of war, pretty low since I don't really socket my gear) and it's been pretty sweet so far. Can't wait to get the rest of the crit rate trophies 8D. Im debating on whether to get a P-Attack trophy (like Ram Blood), seeing as how much easier it seems to get P-Attack than crit rate.

Lvl 7X <br> Warrior(DPS)/Thief/MA/BD/Samurai/Ranger/Engi <br> <a>YT channel</a>

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PostedSep 30, 2011 4:23 pm

Re: Blade Dancer guide (Updated)

to all you Blade Dancers out there
jm2900 wrote:

PvP / TErritory Wars/ Arena : Suck and fail  
If you were an experienced blade dancer you wouldn't say that. If you suck and fail with your build, than theres obviously something wrong with it. Of course theres build for PvE and theres a build for PvP, you can't expect to be awesome at both with the same gear. But either way, blade dancers are very good at PvP. Maybe I'm the only one who figured out how? :p That would make me more experienced than you.

jm2900 wrote:

======================Section 1: Builds============================

Build 1

Pure Evasionist (Most Reccomended)
KP:
Advanced Spin : 15
Yoga : 10
Equips:
Secret Claw Set
Misc.:
Water Symboism
your best +AGI Title like Vowkeeper
Shadow Lacerater (lv 50 yellow dagger from Ulta Hall Trial, Kenny)
AGI trophies

after that if you're well funded get some AGI lv 2 gems eternal chisels then socket them into your sword. (and dagger)

Build 2:

Pure Crit Build (its OK if you can get your crit rate up to round 60% 80%)

Advanced Steps: 15
Rising Star : 10
Sword Dance : 10

Secret Claw Set

Fire Symboism

Delphi/ Blackflame dungeon trophies

Build 3

Balancer (OK)

Advanced Spin: 10 (evasion)
Advanced Steps 10 (crit)
Art of the Sword : 5 (dmg)
Firebird Dance:5 (for Tango)
Tango:1 (heal)
(Ucwatididthar?)  
No, I don't.
jm2900 wrote:


Blood Knife set

Water symboism

Any trophy you want
 


Is it so hard to make this more organized? You're always too vague in some aspects. "use any trophy you want"; do you really not have any recommendations? Also, please explain why water symbiosis is more useful than fire in all of these builds? Not to mention you should really use both at the same time anyway.

jm2900 wrote:
==========================WEAPONS========================

Finally glad im done with builds, was getting tired and sick of it.  

Really? It can't have taken you more than 5 minutes to type that out.


jm2900 wrote:

Swords (in order of most recommended)

1.Horrible Nighmare (Trial: Ulta Hall , Tiamat)
2.Steel warlord ( One - Eyed Taen/Roger, Trial Vile Shark HQ)
3. Horrible Dream (lv 50 orange crafted sword
4.Imperial Guard (lv 50 crafted sword)
5.random white/green/blue lv 50 sword
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Off-Hand

Shadow Lacerater (Evasionist)
Skull Cutter / WIld Arrogance (Crit build)
any yellow club (rofl)

 

You're just listing the obvious highest attack golden choices. Also, if you were to use wild arrogance or a yellow club you would put it on your main hand, no the off hand.

jm2900 wrote:

Lv 30
Seduce
Charms an enemy to attack another enemy nearby.Reduces all P-DMG taken by 50%
comments: total poo, just for fun , real fun to use  

Its not total poo. If someone ends up aggroing a strong additional mob accidentally, thats when you seduce it. Finish taking down whatever you were killing before the idiot screwed up, then take down the second one. Can save your party from a wipe in some dungeons.


jm2900 wrote:

Lv40
Flashy Charm
reduces ACC and EVA of all enemys within 15 ft.
Comments: yet again poo until a higher level  

Totally not poo. Extremely useful for it increases your evasion odds for the 'evasionist' build. Each -1 acc from your enemy is +1 eva to you.

jm2900 wrote:

Lv 60
Firebird Dance
hits target 1 time with alot of dmg. takes double damage when target has burig metal on them.
Comment: replace this with superstar OWNAGE Very Happy  

You mean, replace superstar with THIS. Either way don't, you'll still use it for single targets.

On the talents I'd also add Tango to all builds. You're probably not a bad blade dancer, but you definitely aren't as good as you think. And if your gonna make a guide please at least put in the minimal effort to make it organized and updated (we are almost at level 60 cap and you're still on the level 50 gear).

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PostedOct 25, 2011 11:42 pm
i quitted EE and im not updting this anymore


so lock this if theres like a huge revamp like maple big bang






im just saying that im not funded to win at PvE ... t least someone thats using this should have more than 700 gold like me.

#2 really no point in single trgeting when u can hit 1+ mobbs. more exp. i agree u should replce song o' patience with it when bossing





well if youre so good then make your own guide. haters shall hate

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PostedOct 27, 2011 10:35 am
He was really mean...If only haters weren't so selfish they could share their guide as well!

I appreciated your time and effort put into this guide. It is like the only proper BD guide i found and it helped me a lots! Too bad... i wish this could have been updated farter.

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PostedNov 07, 2011 1:50 am
I only have started to play... What initial bonus to take for a BD?

slay3r

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PostedNov 07, 2011 11:09 am
Get Maverick for EVA BD

jm2900

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PostedMar 27, 2012 11:11 pm
I came back. Which means I will continue to update this guide


-Added Extra Stuff section

-Added Credits section

-Added Distribution section

As you can tell, I'm not a fan of having people ripping me and my creations (incl. this) off.

Just for clarification: this guide was made on
 

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