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gorilla87

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PostedSep 24, 2009 3:19 am
someone correct me if im wrong. ok in redemption jins and nangins cant be invade, but jins and nangin can invade where theres a y stone at in fujin and guan town.
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justinrabe

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PostedSep 24, 2009 3:40 am

Re: Redemption Server - Jin/Nangin zones can not be invaded

CTD2008 wrote:
Hi All,

I tested all the shields and zone invasion today after servers back up. I tracked down why Jin and Nangin can not be invaded past 1 shields.

The alliance of fujin and Guan is 2x higher than either Jin or Nangin faction points. Since Jin and Nangin are not allied they count separately, not combined.

This caused the system to not allow either of the weaker factions to be invaded, but allows the weaker factions to still invade the stronger ones.

I will continue to verify this with ALT 1, but I am almost certain this is the case.

Thanks,

CTD

P.S. Everything works he same except guan and fujin can not go past the first zone of nangin or jins. Anything past the 1st zone is not accessible.  


During hsb the sytsem allows us to invade all the way to jin and nangins town, this has been tested and confirmed ^^

AbsoluteVirtue

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PostedSep 24, 2009 12:45 pm
So once we get our stone back we are good lol

jlw08

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PostedSep 29, 2009 6:51 am
i dont like this at all, its taking a huge portion of the game away. Yanggok is virtually empty except for a couple M33s, wars only come ever 2-3 hours now, and now we cant invade other factions? Whats left for us to do except grind? Grinding is the "means to an end", not the end itself. Why am I grinding constantly if theres nothing to do with my character?

Theres needs to be ALOT more variety in this game when it comes to PvP, and restrictions like these are just ridiculous. The amount of faction points that they have has nothing to do with weather the enemy can invade their lands or not. Locking up their lands wont suddenly make it easier for them to gain faction points.... Masters dont even grind in those zones!!!

How many handicapes does this game need? Having your lands invaded should be some what of a kick in the *** to your faction to get its **** in gear and start leveling.... but no instead we baby them and give them rewards for being weak/lazy... while those of us who worked hard to gain more master levels get punished and locked out ....

Mcluscky

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PostedSep 30, 2009 5:50 pm
jlw08 wrote:
i dont like this at all, its taking a huge portion of the game away. Yanggok is virtually empty except for a couple M33s, wars only come ever 2-3 hours now, and now we cant invade other factions? Whats left for us to do except grind? Grinding is the "means to an end", not the end itself. Why am I grinding constantly if theres nothing to do with my character?

Theres needs to be ALOT more variety in this game when it comes to PvP, and restrictions like these are just ridiculous. The amount of faction points that they have has nothing to do with weather the enemy can invade their lands or not. Locking up their lands wont suddenly make it easier for them to gain faction points.... Masters dont even grind in those zones!!!

How many handicapes does this game need? Having your lands invaded should be some what of a kick in the *** to your faction to get its **** in gear and start leveling.... but no instead we baby them and give them rewards for being weak/lazy... while those of us who worked hard to gain more master levels get punished and locked out ....  


You're speaking as if the GM's had something to do with this what part of ITS A BUILT IN FUNCTION OF THE GAME do you guys not understand? And to call us lazy because we have lower faction points is a blind assumption. Of course you're ahead when theres an entire month to two months of +40% dmg. Nangins don't only rely on people grinding to get stronger they rely on people actually joining the faction and when theres a 50% dmg difference its not exactly the most attractive faction to join. Quit acting like since you have more higher lvls you've worked harder because truth be told you haven't worked any harder than any of us you just lvled 50% faster because of your stone bonuses

StrikinCobra

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PostedOct 02, 2009 9:27 am
Lets not forget all the cowards who left to go to Guans and Fuji's. We are weak and lazy because our cowards left? 10 to 1 in pvp is a little over board. And we are lazy? get a grip you come in packs, come one on one,,,,, you will die. But thats not the point. You have an alliance so you have +20%, we don't. You guys have yang 50% of the time, Nangs have it 40% of the time and we have it 10% of the time. And we are lazy? We have the disadvantage and we are still grinding. And we are lazy?
Why are we even still here? They are not doing anything to even it all out. They could limit the amount of people going to PVP's, other games do it. If it's uneven the game just won't let anymore go into the PVP. But do they do it.... nope. Jins will never see 10 gold medal wins. Do they do something....... nope.
This game will be back to 3 factions soon. The Jins are getting fed up with this crap. They will leave to play a game on another site and take their money with them.
Guans and Fuji's will be fighting each other and all the cowards will switch again or start new ones in a diff faction. I have seen alot of people go to private servers, all cuz they are not doing anything fast enough.
Delete half the major factions characters, all level's up to M33, make them start over in nang and Jin. Lets see how lazy they will be.

lloydbanks17ani

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PostedOct 03, 2009 4:10 am

Re: Redemption Server - Jin/Nangin zones can not be invaded

CTD2008 wrote:
Hi All,

I tested all the shields and zone invasion today after servers back up. I tracked down why Jin and Nangin can not be invaded past 1 shields.

The alliance of fujin and Guan is 2x higher than either Jin or Nangin faction points. Since Jin and Nangin are not allied they count separately, not combined.

This caused the system to not allow either of the weaker factions to be invaded, but allows the weaker factions to still invade the stronger ones.

I will continue to verify this with ALT 1, but I am almost certain this is the case.

Thanks,

CTD

P.S. Everything works he same except guan and fujin can not go past the first zone of nangin or jins. Anything past the 1st zone is not accessible.  

who care about nangs and jin not in ally anymore..they chose that not we... yeah and tx...now we are -10% what do u tink will gonna hapen now.. ?? an avalache of fujin will run at nangs...then wee will see....what u guys gonna do after that block ..nangs entry cuz to many are there ?? well is your folld if thats gonna happen ...

I Am The Last Persone U Will See Cuz After That U Are Dead !!!

Crane_Eye

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PostedOct 03, 2009 6:53 am
StrikinCobra wrote:
Lets not forget all the cowards who left to go to Guans and Fuji's. We are weak and lazy because our cowards left? 10 to 1 in pvp is a little over board. And we are lazy? get a grip you come in packs, come one on one,,,,, you will die. But thats not the point. You have an alliance so you have +20%, we don't. You guys have yang 50% of the time, Nangs have it 40% of the time and we have it 10% of the time. And we are lazy? We have the disadvantage and we are still grinding. And we are lazy?
Why are we even still here? They are not doing anything to even it all out. They could limit the amount of people going to PVP's, other games do it. If it's uneven the game just won't let anymore go into the PVP. But do they do it.... nope. Jins will never see 10 gold medal wins. Do they do something....... nope.
This game will be back to 3 factions soon. The Jins are getting fed up with this crap. They will leave to play a game on another site and take their money with them.
Guans and Fuji's will be fighting each other and all the cowards will switch again or start new ones in a diff faction. I have seen alot of people go to private servers, all cuz they are not doing anything fast enough.
Delete half the major factions characters, all level's up to M33, make them start over in nang and Jin. Lets see how lazy they will be.  



10 vs 1 is called ganking I know its annoying but its part of the game so is stunning, this game wouldn't be fun if it didn't have those two features.

Same goes for real life in war, ganking and stunning.

Reason jins get fed up is because they don't know when to keep going they give up so easy and quit to join the other factions, which is noobnes, and not all jins a lazy some jins are, if the lazy ones went to war and hsb jins stand better chance.

Mcluscky

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PostedOct 03, 2009 8:58 am

Re: Redemption Server - Jin/Nangin zones can not be invaded

lloydbanks17ani wrote:
CTD2008 wrote:
Hi All,

I tested all the shields and zone invasion today after servers back up. I tracked down why Jin and Nangin can not be invaded past 1 shields.

The alliance of fujin and Guan is 2x higher than either Jin or Nangin faction points. Since Jin and Nangin are not allied they count separately, not combined.

This caused the system to not allow either of the weaker factions to be invaded, but allows the weaker factions to still invade the stronger ones.

I will continue to verify this with ALT 1, but I am almost certain this is the case.

Thanks,

CTD

P.S. Everything works he same except guan and fujin can not go past the first zone of nangin or jins. Anything past the 1st zone is not accessible.  

who care about nangs and jin not in ally anymore..they chose that not we... yeah and tx...now we are -10% what do u tink will gonna hapen now.. ?? an avalache of fujin will run at nangs...then wee will see....what u guys gonna do after that block ..nangs entry cuz to many are there ?? well is your folld if thats gonna happen ...  


Whats funny here is I just happened to notice you standing in Fujin Palace guildless waiting for transfers...

rdm19

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PostedOct 09, 2009 10:25 am
Crane_Eye wrote:
StrikinCobra wrote:
Lets not forget all the cowards who left to go to Guans and Fuji's. We are weak and lazy because our cowards left? 10 to 1 in pvp is a little over board. And we are lazy? get a grip you come in packs, come one on one,,,,, you will die. But thats not the point. You have an alliance so you have +20%, we don't. You guys have yang 50% of the time, Nangs have it 40% of the time and we have it 10% of the time. And we are lazy? We have the disadvantage and we are still grinding. And we are lazy?
Why are we even still here? They are not doing anything to even it all out. They could limit the amount of people going to PVP's, other games do it. If it's uneven the game just won't let anymore go into the PVP. But do they do it.... nope. Jins will never see 10 gold medal wins. Do they do something....... nope.
This game will be back to 3 factions soon. The Jins are getting fed up with this crap. They will leave to play a game on another site and take their money with them.
Guans and Fuji's will be fighting each other and all the cowards will switch again or start new ones in a diff faction. I have seen alot of people go to private servers, all cuz they are not doing anything fast enough.
Delete half the major factions characters, all level's up to M33, make them start over in nang and Jin. Lets see how lazy they will be.  



10 vs 1 is called ganking I know its annoying but its part of the game so is stunning, this game wouldn't be fun if it didn't have those two features.

Same goes for real life in war, ganking and stunning.

Reason jins get fed up is because they don't know when to keep going they give up so easy and quit to join the other factions, which is noobnes, and not all jins a lazy some jins are, if the lazy ones went to war and hsb jins stand better chance.  


yea 10v1 ganking is a feature, but 20v1 at a spawn is rediculus, it forces a 20v1 instead of allowing the few numbers they have spawn regroup and buff so they can stand a chance
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