furi, cant put yourself as the basis of what is to be op or not. thats showing alot arrogance, and alot of ego. you are a +15 pvp set templar, with +15 shield, and sleep hammers, and axes. kinda hard to beat that. say for myself, wl not supposed to kill templar. just doesnt happen. so you cant put yourself as a basis for everyone to go off of. everyone they are naming, are who they feel is op. its their oppinion.