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Picchuu

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Picchuu
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PostedDec 03, 2012 10:42 pm
lestat_anil wrote:
Btw Nadu, how is her comparing SB to other f2p games Aeria hosts different from you constantly comparing SB to TERA?

Unless Aeria completely makes the game pay to win, I fail to see how they could truly "screw up the economy" so to speak. Tactics is pretty good when it comes to keeping things balanced, from what I experienced on Eden Eternal as both a GS and a player under his management.

However, I do fail to see how the addition of a cosmetic item in to the item mall is cause for such serious reactions and arguments/discussions about a theoretical economy that doesn't even exist yet. Players love individuality regarding character appearance, why not market to that?  


QF so much T.

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Avyn

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PostedDec 04, 2012 12:22 am
Yilette wrote:
Avyn wrote:
I also know for certain that there are in-game drops in Shaiya that Aeria specifically requested the developers to remove from the drop table so that they could be sold for AP instead.  

Lovely. What sort of item were they?  

Most notably, socketed helmets. In the Korean version, they drop from bosses, just as other gear pieces do. Aeria had the devs remove them from the drop table and they are sold for AP instead.
lestat_anil wrote:
Unless Aeria completely makes the game pay to win, I fail to see how they could truly "screw up the economy" so to speak. Tactics is pretty good when it comes to keeping things balanced, from what I experienced on Eden Eternal as both a GS and a player under his management.  

Shaiya has been on a sharp increase in cost to "keep up" in PvP for quite some time, but it didn't lessen at all when tactics took the reigns. I think that is mostly dictated by those above him. Pay to win seems to be the route that all Aeria games eventually take.

Selynar

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PostedDec 04, 2012 2:38 am
Personally I think Aeria hit the nail on the head with Twelve Sky, and TS 2.

They had some customizing gear, some ability resets, stat resets, things like that. The kicker was that they sold Chests that gave rare and possibly epic gear. But the chest didn't drop anything that you couldn't farm yourself. Also they had items for enchanting to better your success and stop things from breaking.

So it gave people that paid into the game a slight edge, but not something that overcame any non cash item people. Which personally I think is fair. Give an edge to those that keep the company going, but not hand the game over to the payers.

They had one game, you had a "Guardian" sort of thing but they were famous characters. William Tell, and others like that, in the cash shop they had healing pills that you could use every 3 seconds or so, and healed for thousands, best item you could get in the game would heal you for maybe a thousand and use it every 6 seconds.

That gave the game over to the payers. And as such.... the game is no longer up.

I think that customization, and giving an edge to payers is a good idea, but for any gear purchases don't sell overpowered items because it'll throw the game off, and the population will drop drastically.

For example. I spend 8-10hrs farming one really good piece of gear.... then again so I can combine, or whatever, and again and again.... and someone spends $5 and blows me out of the water... Guess what. I'm quitting.

I pay for items in the cash mall, customizing, enchanting, etc... but I don't pay for OP gear, I find it defeats the whole purpose of a game. I can drop $1000, and laugh at anyone who wants to fight me.

That's a game I play everyday for free... called "I Win". I always win. Razz And its cheaper. Wink

I enjoy the game for what it is. A challenge to get gear, to level, to pvp, etc. Not to throw money at to win.

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