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PostedJul 24, 2012 3:16 pm   Last edited by trainer772 on Aug 25, 2012 2:01 pm. Edited 4 times in total

Money/exp FAQ

+Money saving guide
Money/EXP

How do I get money? What is the money system in AVA?
After every match, depending on how long you were alive, you gain a certain amount of Supply Points. These Supply Points add up to fill a bar under your EXP bar. Once you get 100% supply bar (20,000 supply points) it resets to 0 and you get a supply case. This supply case (automatically opened) will give you 5,000 euros and will give an M67 grenade or Supply armor randomly.

How do I get money fast?
Play the game more! In AVA, there is no get-rich-quick scheme. For the novice, the best and most consistent way to get money fast is to play more to achieve badges and medals.

How is SP gain or repair cost determined?
Purely by the amount of time played. It is a myth that getting a better score gives more money, or shooting more bullets cost more to repair.

How do I get campaign ribbons?
Play the game more as that specific class. They will naturally accumulate.

How do I get exp fast?
Annihilation and Cross Steal are good exp modes. Avoid playing Demolition, Escort, or [AI] Annihilation.

What are Gcoins?
Gcoins are the currency that you can buy with real money.

What are BP?
Battle Points are given for completing daily tasks. You also get 1 battle point for every Lucky Shot you make. Battle Points can give you a discount at the capsule shop. Instead of paying 3,000 euros, you can buy a capsule for 1,000 euros and 50 BP.
To get BP, you can complete a daily task for +5, +10, +15, or +20 BP respectively. One lucky shot will also give you 1 BP.

What is a Lucky Shot?
A lucky shot is merely bonus exp for a single kill. It is a small random chance that can be improved by wearing lucky shot gear. There is a myth that states that Lucky shots are random 1-hit kills no matter what gun you are using. This is absolutely false, since any rifle or SMG can never 1-hit no matter how much LS gear you're wearing.

What rank do you need to be to buy capsules?
Staff Sgt 3.

What capsules should I buy?
In all honesty, don't buy any caps. They're a disastrous waste of money for those who have little experience with them. If you know what you're doing, go for the Desmodus.

What are the levels?
http://forums.ijji.com/showthread.php?t=832159


Tips to saving money:

~Never sell anything. If you have a tendency to buy a gun, do badly, and sell it on the same day, you are on a course for bankruptcy. Even if you have a really old gun that you never use anymore since it's so outdated, I encourage you to keep it! I still have my first two primary guns I bought, the P90 and the SG550. While my P90 Harimau and my SG556 clearly replace them, it's a good habit to keep old guns and play with them once in a while.

~Never buy a gun unless you know you will use it for a long time. If you are a Staff Sgt and you can't wait until you reach SFC to get your first M4MK3, just stick with the M4A1 (LaserII + LRB + Protogrip). That gun is actually top tier and was once considered to be an overpowered gun. And plus, staff sgt goes by really fast.

~Never buy a stupid gun. When people QQ about buying a stupid gun like a permanent M16 or a permanent UMP, I sometimes wonder why they failed to utilize the plentiful guides around the forums.

~Never buy or use a gun that requires a TON of mods to work. Such extremely mod-heavy guns include:
-PGM, DSR, WA2000
-SG556
-K1A1, MP7, Kriss, MP5SD5
If you absolutely use these guns, find creative ways to cope with minimal mods.

~It's best to stick with guns that require few or no mods at all. Such ideal guns include:
-Shotuns
-Galil Mar, AKs, AUG A2, Calico, P90, MP5k
-M4, AK, or Famas MK3
-XM8, AK107, R4, CR21
-TPG, SR25, FRF2, AWM
-Capsule guns (???)

~Generally, you should spend no more than 2k euros to mod a gun. If you find yourself spending over 3-4k euros, you're most likely paying more for the mods than to repair the guns. Strangely enough, since capsule guns don't require mods to work well but cost more to repair, they have a good tradeoff between mod cost and repair cost. It's cheaper (repair+modcost) to use a capsule gun than to use a normal gun with 2-3k euros of mods.


~Never buy anything extraneous such as:
-Smoke nades, MK3A2, M67, etc. The supply grenade given with every other supply case is good enough.
-Pistols. if you badly need one, P226 serves as a cheap sidearm for the average pubber. If you are a pro who needs a spamgun for demo, the Glock works almost as well as the Beretta for half the cost. However, it is extremely cost effective to not use pistols.
-Armor. The supply armor given to you + the default helmet is enough. The helmets, armor, gloves, etc. in the shop are really overpriced and can easily make people broke. The cost of using EG08, Large cal, and/or EH08 can sometimes surpass the cost of your own gun.
-Backpack items. This is self explanatory. Yes, don't buy the +1 ammo item, since it weighs heavily on your expenditures.
-Capsules. This is a big source of money outflow. Most people who don't have experience with the capsule shop find themselves losing hundreds of thousands of euros. I'll post a capsule guide sometime later to help with that.
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trainer772

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PostedJul 24, 2012 3:22 pm   Last edited by trainer772 on Dec 16, 2012 4:25 pm. Edited 2 times in total
SP rate of gains

AI Demolition: 48 sp/minute, or 12 euro/minute. Death does not affect sp gain.

AI Windmill: 48 sp/minute, or 12 euro/minute. Death does not affect sp gain.

Annihilation: base gain of 48 sp/minute, or 12 euros/minute. Getting more kills and dying fewer deaths will contribute to increased rate of gains. Victory will also contribute to increased rate of gain. Increased rates are minimal and rarely exceed 30% extra sp.

Frostmuse

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PostedJul 26, 2012 7:40 pm
there are some ways to get money faster:
ill give some tips for the new ones.

dont spend in armor (extra waste of money)

only use 1 granade (+1000)

try to take co op guns from the boxes with your clan or friends (they doesnt damage =no repairs)

every 100% supply the system will give u a basic nade. (dont buy more)

play the games that you know you will kill more and mostly win (the highest the score, better)

those are some tips hope you liked Smile

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PostedJul 26, 2012 8:21 pm
Hmm... I should put up a section on how to save up money and have a lot of guns.

SiaoJyun

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PostedJul 27, 2012 4:48 pm
Make capsule guide, i cant seem to win the godforsaken noobmodus, and thus cant play my fav class (PM) as i refuse to buy veresk and mp7, since i can wait for SR3M and striker and better save for those

anyway, persnally, i like having a pistol, though i dont use one in the 1-5 channel, once i get to ssgt1, i equip that p226 (I unequiped all grenades, pistol, armour, goggles and EG08 given at start to have when neccesarry)

glock is pretty darn good but p226 is crap

i have p226on PM and RM....just in case i mneed 1 or 2 shots, and i have glock on sniper, though when that p226 runs out i ll use glock on all

i mean p226 costs 700 and does pretty much NOTHING while glock for 1k is nearly as effective as berreta

so yeah, generaly i use only:
prmary weapon
glock (1k for expendable, lasts awhile)
supply grenade
supply armour

though EG-08 is great item and very tempting, but meh

Also i only buy capsules with help of BP, i tested maximum BP is 1000 which means you can buy 20 capsules fr 1k each, i generaly check capsule shop when i have over 500 BP (for 10 caps), though i am lazy and usualy buy individuals just for MK3A2, ghostgear and EA08 for a few days, at least makes my PM competatiive as Hard (ghostgear helps PM a lot)


though i still feel like making money is way too slow once you are done with ribbons and medals, supply just takes too long and that 5k is just too low, since by that time repairs and modding primary weapon adds up

MyGunz

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PostedSep 05, 2012 11:19 am
 
What are Gcoins?
Gcoins are the currency that you can buy with real money.  


I say this needs to be changed, do we agree?

Regarding making money. I guess the best EVER way to have money when u need it, is to save it, when u get it.

Basically I have a Red-rank ( single stick/bar ) account with like 3 perm pointman weapons, 3 perm snipers and like 5 perm rifles. and I have an extra 600 000 € to top it off and I've spent ~150k € on capsules ( got mac10 ). Ofcourse getting to Red rank can take awhile but at around "High-blue" rank i had over 300 000 if i recall right or close to 400k.

Although I'm like the "extreme" example of stingy saver. Never worn armor in my life, unless it was timed. Same for mk3 nades. I'll be honest though, if I were to use all this money on weapons right now... then making another 50-60k would be just undescribably slow/long and boring. Especially if there was this 1 weapon that I really really wanted to buy. Once you're out of "skill-ribons" and "medals" to achieve.. I guess doing 3-box is the best bet, aside of getting not-so-regular 5k from supply.

Regarding weapon buy guide. One thing I highly suggest, especially for a low Requirement gun ( say Striker or MG4KE or ASW 338 ) is creating a "new/alt" account playing on it for a day.. or two.. and then buying the weapon once u can to test, prior to buying it on your "main".

Also another tip would be doing 3-box Survival if you need money urgently ( be it for repairs or few thousand €uros off a new gun you've been waiting for so long. ) If you get a habbit of doing 2-4 of these DAILY, will take around 1 hour and it's gonna build up... we're looking at 1-2k "extra" per day... or 30-60k a month.

Doing this with PPsh-41 or STG44 ( timed ) would give the best result, although even with a non-timed weapon the reward outweights the repair costs.

P.S I rarely have a pistol equipped for pointman or rifle, but i generally use SOCOM for sniper which I find has quite cheap upkeep. Propobly better to buy a perm pistol in the long run than keep using the Expendables.

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PostedSep 11, 2012 11:31 am
MyGunz wrote:
 
What are Gcoins?
Gcoins are the currency that you can buy with real money.  


I say this needs to be changed, do we agree?

Regarding making money. I guess the best EVER way to have money when u need it, is to save it, when u get it.

Basically I have a Red-rank ( single stick/bar ) account with like 3 perm pointman weapons, 3 perm snipers and like 5 perm rifles. and I have an extra 600 000 € to top it off and I've spent ~150k € on capsules ( got mac10 ). Ofcourse getting to Red rank can take awhile but at around "High-blue" rank i had over 300 000 if i recall right or close to 400k.

Although I'm like the "extreme" example of stingy saver. Never worn armor in my life, unless it was timed. Same for mk3 nades. I'll be honest though, if I were to use all this money on weapons right now... then making another 50-60k would be just undescribably slow/long and boring. Especially if there was this 1 weapon that I really really wanted to buy. Once you're out of "skill-ribons" and "medals" to achieve.. I guess doing 3-box is the best bet, aside of getting not-so-regular 5k from supply.

Regarding weapon buy guide. One thing I highly suggest, especially for a low Requirement gun ( say Striker or MG4KE or ASW 338 ) is creating a "new/alt" account playing on it for a day.. or two.. and then buying the weapon once u can to test, prior to buying it on your "main".

Also another tip would be doing 3-box Survival if you need money urgently ( be it for repairs or few thousand €uros off a new gun you've been waiting for so long. ) If you get a habbit of doing 2-4 of these DAILY, will take around 1 hour and it's gonna build up... we're looking at 1-2k "extra" per day... or 30-60k a month.

Doing this with PPsh-41 or STG44 ( timed ) would give the best result, although even with a non-timed weapon the reward outweights the repair costs.

P.S I rarely have a pistol equipped for pointman or rifle, but i generally use SOCOM for sniper which I find has quite cheap upkeep. Propobly better to buy a perm pistol in the long run than keep using the Expendables.  


socom is really bad for a secondary due to long time to equip it, if you want a permaneent from shop CZ75 is probably best bet as its basicaly a slightly weaker glock/berreta

I do same as you, never wear any armour other than from capsules and i also make new char to test new guns before buying them, though if you play a lot and with this cheap way you could probably afford both 2 new guns every update, assuming you play very much

i made this char approximately a month ago i believe, currently have 8 guns, a pistol (socom, which sux) and 25k euros

really it helps to use cheap maintenance weapons, I generaly stick to DM (no mods needed) as its cheap and effective for PM, on RM xm8 (only 1 mod needed), occasionaly m4 mk3 (no mods needed) and asw (1 or 2 mods)

though i do prefer veresk/striker12, para and pgm over the above occasionaly, i try not to use them due to outrageous maintenance costs

for sniper ASW is probably cheapest way, for PM any capsule will work, mp7 is fairly cheap because repair is nearly free, even if it needs a few mods, for rifle, again, capsules are nice but othervise anything cheap on mods, MK3s, xm8 etc.

though it does suck getting killed very fast with weak guns like m4 mk3 to the head and body with bad protection, its frustrating at times and gives you that pay2win feeling

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PostedNov 18, 2012 7:02 am
Or you can dont spend the money and just win when u reach a x money buy some buy gun (Low Price and Easy to use)

They you can spend on Capsule Shop if you prefer Cap Guns.

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PostedDec 28, 2012 8:16 am
Well I bought a Permanent M16 on my alternate account for trolling, and I'm satisfied because I seem to be doing better with it than SA58 Para. But it doesn't make sense how M4A1 has more penetration than M16, even though the stats say different.

M16 M4A1
Less Accurate - Longer Barrel* More Accurate - Shorter Barrel*
Less Recoil - Slower ROF More Recoil - Faster ROF
Less Moveshot - More Weight More Moveshot - Less Weight
Less Penetration - Higher Damage* More Penetration - Lower Damage*
* = Stuff that doesn't make sense

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PostedFeb 16, 2014 12:01 pm
Dumb question but If I only play sniper class, does RM weapon in the active slot get damaged? Like, if I exclusively play just one class will I still need to repair all 3 weapons for all classes? Or do the maintenance points depend on how much time I use a particular gun/class?
Also, which permanent rifleman weapon nowadays is cheapest to repair, requires least mods and performs well?
sg556, m14, amd65 need lots of mods..pretty much the only two options are famas mk3 and r4 I guess?

P.S Aeria, you suck. I got back 8 months after the June "update" and it's the same, permanent weapons are still not back..Way to ruin this game, collecting guns was the most important objective of the game and it's gone..I'll probably quit again once I get few remaining good perm weapons and get bored of them..
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