I thought so, would have hoped someone did some excessive testing. -malice certs barely do anything, so I was trying to figure out what the actual numbers were. If the malice generated was a small number I could see a -8% malice being ineffective. However you have to take into consideration snub and declaration of anger, their numbers as well. Since DoA does make quite a difference, that indicates that the numbers of malice aren't in the high thousands.