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PostedSep 13, 2012 8:31 pm   Last edited by BestOfAllNoobs on Apr 11, 2013 4:02 pm. Edited 13 times in total

What you need in your Armory

Beginner/Non-ap Spender guide
THIS GUIDE IS GOING TO BE MADE A SHORT 3 MIN VIDEO. [april 11th]
NOTE: This is a work in progress, More in-depth analysis AND pictures on the terms in this post will be added as I have the ability to gain knowledege and when i have free time.

This post is a guide to people just starting the game and wondering how they should go about what weapons they have. Older players please do not flood if you are not contributing to the ideas of the post. Especially do not flame or turn this into a social event, as this is for the advancement of the younger community. It also speaks on simpler terms than the other guides.

Yes, everyone has their favorite weapons, some even only have one weapon, BUT... A sound balance and knowledge between powers is the key to success. Guides like Yuri's wiki only explain game modes and stats but do not actually tell you what to do. And the guide to building good cp weapons can be used as a reference to choosing what weapons you will ultimatly go with.

This is also An addition to the guide to building good campaign weapons. It actually deals with building weapons for the game IN GENERAL.

There are 4 weapon types you must have to be successful in this game all around the board.
CLICK HERE TO READ MORE ON THE WEAPONS I AM TALKING ABOUT IN THIS POST

ONE WEAPON For DEFEAT.

CLICK HERE to see additional weapon options
Defeat weapons only need one thing... attack. the goal in defeat is to kill hordes of weaker troops. therefor defense damage ect. is not needed.



1. a. Crescent Blade (With Crescent on c1) Temper must have Attack, all other temper is optional. a good idea is to eventually mod speed 5 times on this weapon, as it is better the faster you can run.
or b. TBlades (with Thrust on c1) Temper must have alot of attack. already fast at running, you should probably mod attack temper max on this one. Also using c2 (noobs.. this means doing one regular attack and then pressing the combo button alot) you can shoot out a vorpal floating orb, and that will kill troops without the need of attack

These are what I've been studying as the most used, and most effective weapons for this gamemode. Simply look at the Maximum KOs ranking and see all the Cblades and Tblades on there.
Another good one i recommend personally would be the Hand Axe with Crescent, or the BattleRod with Pierce. These are "ground pound moves". You get the enemy to surround you instead of hitting them all from the side. Then you use C1 to attack everywhere around you. these weapons are normally slow running but are low flasks, so i suggest using a speed scroll.

ONE CAPTURE WEAPON.
CLICK HERE to see additional weapon options
you need three stats at the very least in Capture. Attack Damage and Defense.
I personally suggest the Tsabers (Moon/Fan) but this is at your disgression.
I will argue that this is the best weapon hands-down for capture. there are other weapons that have slight advantages in certain situations but Tsabers has the best allround capture capabilities.



ONE CONFRONT WEAPON.
LINK COMING SOON
This weapon can literally be anything you want it to be, so make it your favorite weapon to fight with. YOU ONLY NEED ATTACK AND DEFENSE (and life). DO NOT PUT ON DAMAGE FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER. you may put on life and mosou but these are "Fluff" and are truely not necessary to the core gameplay in confront. Im not saying don't put them on though as they are always a good idea.

At the moment, High Life weapons are common in this game, I suggest making your weapon more defensive and life oriented.




ONE FIGHTING STRENGTH WEAPON/SHOWDOWN WEAPON
CLICK HERE to see additional weapon options
This weapon can also be anything you want it to be, but the Guide to good CP weapons should give you a good grasp on a weapon you could use (use the link on the top). This weapon COULD BE YOUR CAPTURE WEAPON, but if you are using my suggestion, the Tsabers for capture.... it is advisable you have another weapon. As the Tsaber-users will be at a disadvantage when fighting PvP style. This weapon needs at least ATTACK DAMAGE AND DEFENSE, just like the capture weapon. Note you will be fight other players more in showdown and fighting strength than in capture.

When you first make your Fighting strength weapon, I Suggest Tempering It as 3-3-3-3-0
or 3-3-3-2-2 to have an All-Around capability.
Then.. after you get a hang of the weapon in all situations... then you can change it up


Those are the 4 weapon types you should have if you never buy an armory, or are just starting the game. Please lead other players to this post if they are asking questions. I will make it better and better as time goes on. I will not abandon this post even if no one contributes but me, as i have newer players to teach as well.

NEW SECTION: MANAGING ITEMS

lets talk items then,
now that we talked about all the weapons you need in "What You Need In Your Armory"
here are all the items that will go with that. This will show you all the basic everyday and campaign items you need to be successful without wasting space in your storage. With this anyone should be readily equip for any instance so,,, no excuses! Mad

If you dont have space it is ok to not try to get the level 2 items
1. Fire orb
2. Inferno orb
3. Ice orb
4. Blizzard orb
5. Vorpal orb
6. True Vorpal orb
7. Wind orb
8. Tornado orb
9. Lightning orb
10. Blitz orb
11. Stone belt
12. Granite belt
13. Large Flask
14. Speed Scroll
15. Remedy
16. Ginseng
17. Thermal Scroll
18. Windscroll
19. Herbal Elixar
20. Rain Amulet
21-25: 6 items of player preference
26-30: Free space used for sellable items or more player preference slots.

If you want to have dyes, fabrics, and minor items like Tiger,shell, and dragon amulets storm/hurricane... try to limit them to specific instances you intend to use them against NPCs. They generally are NO GOOD in pvp competitive games (with the exception of the Hurricane Card, which should be factored into your 5 player preference slots).
same thing goes for LT food, Spirit souls, raw items, and anything else you desire for luxary.


good luck...
~MasterNoob.XC1
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PostedSep 13, 2012 8:32 pm   Last edited by BestOfAllNoobs on Dec 07, 2012 2:44 pm. Edited 19 times in total

LINK TO USEFUL PICTURES AND GUIDES

Great Example Pictures and Player Written guides for game modes
Weapon Links
Example of Confront weapon
Example of Capture weapon
Example of Defeat weapon
Example of Fighting Strength Showdown weapon


MASTERNOOB's STRATEGY GUIDES
Masternoob's Simplified Showdown Stratedy Guide
Masternoob's Basic Guide to Defeat the Enemy Leader
Strategy For Playing Defeat battles written by pokopense
Strategy For Playing Capture battles written by Technature
Strategy For Playing Confront battles written by Evagal
*Most of these guides will be replaced with my own guides as I read through them, gather all the knowledge, and find flaws in their guides. They will all be replaced with my own written guides that are easier to follow.*

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PostedSep 13, 2012 8:47 pm
It might help to consolidate a capture weapon and KO weapon (as KOs are also needed for Capture also, usually). I personally use a C1 pierce I.Spear for capture with 4 attack and 3 damage. At high attack like that it's easy to just spam a C1 for troop KOs. While this option isn't as useful for KOs and a weapon built for that sole purpose it is still a viable option, esp. if you only have one armory and need the 4th space for selling weapons. Like I said, having a KO weapon is a tad better, but even some of the "pro" players use the same I spear for their KO weapon (Granted it's probably tempered a bit differently to maximize the "max speed" power-ups). Just a useful tidbit of information.

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PostedSep 13, 2012 8:54 pm
cmstache wrote:
It might help to consolidate a capture weapon and KO weapon (as KOs are also needed for Capture also, usually). I personally use a C1 pierce I.Spear for capture with 4 attack and 3 damage. At high attack like that it's easy to just spam a C1 for troop KOs. While this option isn't as useful for KOs and a weapon built for that sole purpose it is still a viable option, esp. if you only have one armory and need the 4th space for selling weapons. Like I said, having a KO weapon is a tad better, but even some of the "pro" players use the same I spear for their KO weapon (Granted it's probably tempered a bit differently to maximize the "max speed" power-ups). Just a useful tidbit of information.  

dont worry i will make this more and more ellaborate as time goes on, i have already considered this, i will post a picture of my capture Cblade soon.

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PostedSep 13, 2012 8:58 pm
cmstache wrote:
It might help to consolidate a capture weapon and KO weapon (as KOs are also needed for Capture also, usually). I personally use a C1 pierce I.Spear for capture with 4 attack and 3 damage. At high attack like that it's easy to just spam a C1 for troop KOs. While this option isn't as useful for KOs and a weapon built for that sole purpose it is still a viable option, esp. if you only have one armory and need the 4th space for selling weapons. Like I said, having a KO weapon is a tad better, but even some of the "pro" players use the same I spear for their KO weapon (Granted it's probably tempered a bit differently to maximize the "max speed" power-ups). Just a useful tidbit of information.  


If these "pro" are using the same weapon from capture in KOs,
then they might not be as pro as you describe them to be

Yet, for absolute zero AP-spending players, combining them might be a good suggestion
since no extra space whatsoever is not commercially effective

Advanced weapon counselor in Melee, Showdown, and Campaign

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PostedSep 13, 2012 9:06 pm
sodium2298977 wrote:
cmstache wrote:
It might help to consolidate a capture weapon and KO weapon (as KOs are also needed for Capture also, usually). I personally use a C1 pierce I.Spear for capture with 4 attack and 3 damage. At high attack like that it's easy to just spam a C1 for troop KOs. While this option isn't as useful for KOs and a weapon built for that sole purpose it is still a viable option, esp. if you only have one armory and need the 4th space for selling weapons. Like I said, having a KO weapon is a tad better, but even some of the "pro" players use the same I spear for their KO weapon (Granted it's probably tempered a bit differently to maximize the "max speed" power-ups). Just a useful tidbit of information.  


If these "pro" are using the same weapon from capture in KOs,
then they might not be as pro as you describe them to be

Yet, for absolute zero AP-spending players, combining them might be a good suggestion
since no extra space whatsoever is not commercially effective  


I'm not trying to save ppl money here.. im instead trying to help players of lower means still make it in this game. and beginners who dont know where to start.
Even an AP spender with bad weapons can learn something from this when i fix it all up

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PostedSep 13, 2012 9:52 pm
my second goal other than helping noobs that cant grasp the terms in other guides is to update and fix ALL OF THE OLD PLAYER MADE GUIDES to a Fixed Verison written by one player version.

Something like what English KING JAMES did with the bible. (aka King James Version)

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PostedSep 13, 2012 9:55 pm
Defeat wep..i.spear with c1 peirce. has better AoE than c.blade..faster too. i think

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PostedSep 13, 2012 9:56 pm
shanachan188 wrote:
Defeat wep..i.spear with c1 peirce. has better AoE than c.blade..faster too. i think  

put that in the guide for building better CP weapons. this specific guide is not writting out all the specific weapons, as that has already been established

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PostedSep 13, 2012 10:04 pm
okies,sry Smile
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