aceouses wrote:

Umm. We were also REQUIRED to learn about it in 5th grade *** ed..so if I hadn't have learned it at ten, I would have learned it at 11. Everyone knew what it was lol, and pennsylvania is also among the states with the lowest teenage birth rates in the country, so...

lol ***-ed in most areas is like a human anatomy class; gross, disgusting, and meant to scare. I don't think ours was until 8th grade either.

Also, citing your state, isn't exactly evidence against the fact we're teaching things at lower ages. The teaching at a lower age reinforces the idea to experiment with the concept. You yourself are from a different generation than either me or Trollonix. You're basically proving our point that the curve has changed. Teachers, TV, everything, is teaching ideals that used to be "socially unacceptible" at a younger age. I believe you are just 20 now seized? When we met you were still 17. I'm 7 + years older. Trollonix is older than I am. That's close to a decade in difference in our upbringing. What you consider acceptible, wasn't acceptible when we were being raised.

You're just proving our point by saying *** ed was in the 5th grade, when it was in 8th or higher for us.

Olaf1989 wrote:

Lulz TV is not dangerous. You choose to turn it on or off.. Dont be silly. If many kids are affected by TV is cause their parents are too lazy / busy to give them a better education. Dont blame TV or kids , blame parents in any case lol.

Read the posts. We're blaming both. Even if a parent is astute at monitoring what their kid is exposed to, they cannot keep their eyes on the kid 24 hours a day. It takes 10 seconds of typing online for a kid to find a show that their friends at school are talking about. It takes a remote control and a bad switch of TV channels for them to see something on TV. It takes falling asleep in your chair at 10 pm and your kid getting up for a drink, while you have ShowTime on. There are plenty of scenarios where parents cannot be in the control where they would want to be.

But then there's the parent that's addicted to Saw, Family Guy, and Zombie movies, and never turns them off. That's called trainwreck phenomenon, and guys are far more prone to it than women. Yes it is our fault. But if you checked a video store 10 years ago and checked one now, you'd be surprised how different they were. Horror took up 3-4 isles 10 years ago. Now, it takes up nearly 10-20 isles, and in some cases 80% of the store. Family "Videos" actually only takes up one corner of Family Video Rental Displays now. Some stores even store their videos by production author or alphabetically, which means there are 8 bad videos sitting right next to good ones. The XXX content videos are beginning to be moved up to the front showroom, rather than being in a back room.

It's both parents and the media.

Rekikyo wrote:

aceouses wrote: Umm. We were also REQUIRED to learn about it in 5th grade *** ed..so if I hadn't have learned it at ten, I would have learned it at 11. Everyone knew what it was lol, and pennsylvania is also among the states with the lowest teenage birth rates in the country, so...   lol ***-ed in most areas is like a human anatomy class; gross, disgusting, and meant to scare. I don't think ours was until 8th grade either. Also, citing your state, isn't exactly evidence against the fact we're teaching things at lower ages. The teaching at a lower age reinforces the idea to experiment with the concept. You yourself are from a different generation than either me or Trollonix. You're basically proving our point that the curve has changed. Teachers, TV, everything, is teaching ideals that used to be "socially unacceptible" at a younger age. I believe you are just 20 now seized? When we met you were still 17. I'm 7 + years older. Trollonix is older than I am. That's close to a decade in difference in our upbringing. What you consider acceptible, wasn't acceptible when we were being raised. You're just proving our point by saying *** ed was in the 5th grade, when it was in 8th or higher for us.

We had *** ed in 5th grade, 8th grade, 10th grade and 12th grade.
Also, I was 18 when I met you.

aceouses wrote:

We had *** ed in 5th grade, 8th grade, 10th grade and 12th grade. Also, I was 18 when I met you.

In other words, they tried to balance lowering the introduction with more frequent warnings? Interesting tactic, but I think since teens tend to be revolutionary, they only pay attention to the age of introduction and the experimentation afterward, more than the frequency. If anything, Frequency is a reminder.

The reason they do ***-ed in 5th grade is to try to scare them into not having *** until they're ready or married if your religious . I believe its a government experient for that to try to mediate media even more.

As for my point on bullying, sexual standards, body looks, emotions, these are target points for bullies. They try to make themselves feel bad about themselves. Parents cannot control their kids all the time, and the media is the biggest influence today, a parent that doesn't allow their child to watch tv til a specific age to where it wont effect them as much, id guess around 13, where the parents can make the right influence first and get the morals in order.

I grew up with tv since I was a baby, my dad would put a baseball game on before I would go to sleep and id watch that til I passed out. I started playing with computers because my cousin was playing runescape on day when I say over at his house, and thats how I got hooked on video games and mmorpgs. Online games have had an impact on my life but it doesn't take me away from the real world, and I thank my father for that, he taught me to be active and outside some and get moving around. To this day I go running and work out cuz of him.

T.V has nothing to do with anything,Peer group pressure and poor parenting from a very young age is where it falls down.

2 year old kid throws a tantrum for a ice cream and mum/dad buys it simply to end the fuss,Kid just bullied for the first time and thinks....awesome.

Obviously it's not as clear cut as that but at a very young age kids will quickly learn inappropriate actions as a means to a end if they are let to get away with it.

As for scareing 5th graders off ***,that's got to mess with thier heads and leave them scarred,It's a truely wonderfull natural event,I just hope the goverment will supply free pshyc counciling when they are trying to work it all out years later.

Sorry about your friend,hope all sorts itself out for them.

My friend is doing fine and is still coming to school. She knows I'm there to help her.

doc09 wrote:

My friend is doing fine and is still coming to school. She knows I'm there to help her.

Karma to you